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06-28-2014 07:24 PM
llombardo I now give the dogs at least 4 doses, maybe 5 depending on the weather, every 45 days. Vaccines are minimal, no distemper after they have 2 three year shots after the puppy shots. Rabies is every three years, I wish the law would change and allow titering once they get to bd seniors. No other vaccines. For fleas and ticks I started using the Scalibor collar with great results. One of the dogs did break his collar and he is on nexgard for now. I have my property sprayed for Mosquitos, ticks and fleas every 21 days and that reduces the Mosquitos quite a bit. I put vanilla behind their ears and that takes card of the flies and gnats.
06-28-2014 07:10 PM
BowWowMeow I give 3 - 4 doses June through October, depending on the weather. I dose about every 45 days.
06-28-2014 05:06 PM
blackshep When your dog tests positive for heartworm they have been infected for at least 5-6 months. The test can only detect adult worms (stage L5). The idea of the preventative is to kill the larvae after your dog is infected in the L3/L4 stages, before they migrate to the heart (adult/L5 stage).

So for those waiting until the dog tests positive, they test positive only when the parasite reaches the adult stages and they are already damaging your dog's heart. Up to you. I use the preventative, but extend it to every 6 weeks and only during the warm summer months (I'm Canadian) when HW is a risk factor.

OP, I applaud you for changing to raw and avoiding over-vaccinating
06-27-2014 01:40 PM
lauren43 I haven't been giving my dogs heart-worm meds for some time now. But I'm very undecided on the whole thing. After Lincoln gets tested this year, I may start him on it. We will see. So far my dogs have been ok (Avery just passed but he hadn't been on heart-worm meds for at least 2 years)..

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06-27-2014 01:09 PM
Pax8 Thank you for all the information and opinions everyone! I believe I've decided to hang on to the heartworm preventative. It would be nice to be able to believe that the changes would be enough to make him able to fight off heartworm, but it's just not worth the risk.

Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
I'm curious how an untreated dog would fare once it presents with HW? Is this something that would be easy to get rid of with non-conventional methods? Or would it be a full-on allopathic assault? What would your vet recommend in that case? I think a bit of prevention goes a long way.
One has a dog going through a holistic treatment for heartworm right now, but the dog is not free yet so I don't know how that will turn out. Supposedly he has treated other heartworm positive dogs and cleared them with holistic methods, but he doesn't have any open records to prove it to me.
06-27-2014 10:55 AM
Using Heartworm Preventative with a Holistic Health Plan?

Originally Posted by Pax8 View Post
From what I understand, the point is more that a truly healthy dog is just not a suitable host for a mosquito, so the bug would not be drawn to the dog. Not that the dog can get chewed up and magically not contract heartworm.

No way. Are you saying mosquitos don't bite healthy people and animals?

ETA actually, the argument is that a healthy dog will get bitten and his immune system will kill the HW
06-27-2014 10:55 AM
lalachka Ohh, lol, Jean, it was you that gave me that article about the guy that got hw on a healthy third generation raw fed dog.
06-27-2014 10:26 AM
Blanketback I give it every 30 days, but only from June to November. I'm not messing around with HW, but our severe climate here makes winter dosing unnecessary. I do know people who aren't using any preventative at all, but I could never take that gamble myself. Even my non-allopathic vet recommends HW preventatives.

I'm curious how an untreated dog would fare once it presents with HW? Is this something that would be easy to get rid of with non-conventional methods? Or would it be a full-on allopathic assault? What would your vet recommend in that case? I think a bit of prevention goes a long way.
06-27-2014 10:01 AM
onyx'girl I do the same as Danielle, Ivomec dose every 45 days or so in the Summer months.

Dogs are rawfed, springtime garlic to prevent ticks/fleas and minimal vaccinations.
06-27-2014 09:52 AM
DJEtzel It does not seem to hold much value, to me. I know very healthy dogs that have gotten it.

That said, I do dose invermectin very minimally- two to three times per summer, NOT every 30 days.
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