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06-30-2014 12:51 AM
Juliem24 I think I remember that huskies are particularly sensitive to these products. Has anyone else heard this?
06-30-2014 12:40 AM
Colie CVT Based upon what we had seen about that particular product when a rep brought it to us, we decided as a clinic that we did not want to carry it.

It is good to know these things, but I am going to add in a little something that I have noticed when it comes to spot on insecticides and choosing them based upon the kind of warnings that come with them. There is always going to be exceptions to the rules, however this has generally helped me.

I look at the age in which you can start using the product and if it says to keep your cats away from your dogs. Products that can be placed upon very young puppies tend to be safer, and products that don't have a specific warning saying to keep your cat away from your dog for a period of time tend to be safer.

We had a friend who wanted us to put a spot on she had bought at CostCo onto her dog while he was staying with us. I looked at it before my roommate put it on and said if we put it onto him he would have to be in a crate for two days and our cats could not get ANYWHERE near him or what he touched.

The product was listed for dogs 6 months or older and had a big do not use with cats symbol on it also.

I am sorry that your cousin lost her dog. Sadly being gone as long as she had been also could potentially have had a factor in it also. I am always wary of products and want to read the small print before I use it, I also prefer to use a product on my personal pets before I will recommend it. But that is just me. :/ RIP Maya.
06-29-2014 07:54 PM
Wolfiesmom
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Originally Posted by eddie1976E View Post
Ok, so it wasn't frontline that caused the issues, but rather Certifect? Just trying to clarify so that I know for my own benefit. Nontheless it is tragic.
Yes it was the Certifect that caused the issues.
06-29-2014 07:36 PM
jafo220
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I think a chewable med to deal with the pests that get in contact with the skin must be extremely strong to be effective. I would be very hesitant to use something like that. K9Advantix worked way better for us than Frontline.

and applying to 4 spots instead of just one just adds about a minute to whole process...
Depends on the dog with the ease of application. Lol!!!

I didn't use the advatix long enough to say whether it's effective or not. I can say that Frontline is extremely effective as is Nexgard. I have found 3 ticks on Cruz this year and they were all dead and easy to remove. I think Frontline was the better choice as when it was used, it seemed like I never came across ticks on the dogs. I'll probably switch back to Frontline when the Nexgard runs out.

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06-29-2014 03:38 PM
eddie1976E Ok, so it wasn't frontline that caused the issues, but rather Certifect? Just trying to clarify so that I know for my own benefit. Nontheless it is tragic.
06-29-2014 03:17 PM
Freestep I remember talking about amitraz some 25 years ago when I was taking a course in veterinary assisting... and that was the last I'd heard of it. Apparently it has not been widely used in small animal practice for some time, and I assume there is a reason for that. Surprised to see it being used in a new product. I'll have to do some research on that.

I also wanted to point out that this has nothing to do with Frontline, which is a totally different product. Same company, but different product. Frontline is not totally benign either, but please don't freak out if your pet has been on it.

If the dog was gone for 23 days, and had that many ticks attached, it's unlikely any kind of tick preventative had been given within the last month or two. If the dog had been given Frontline, say, the day before she disappeared, she wouldn't have had that many ticks. But even if she did get Frontline applied, 23 days later is long enough that toxicity shouldn't be a problem. So I'm guessing this has more to do with the Certifect itself, not necessarily in combination with Frontline.
06-29-2014 02:45 PM
Jax08 Update on this post found here

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...line-post.html
06-29-2014 02:35 PM
jafo220
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Originally Posted by Wolfiesmom View Post
The other day, I posted that my cousin's dog died due to using Frontline. My aunt had called me right away after the dog had passed to make sure that I didn't use Frotline on Wolfie. My cousin lives in Florida, and we live in Massachusetts, so all this info was relayed over the phone under very emotional circumstances. My cousin's husky had run off, and was gone for 23 days. They found her covered in ticks and brought her to the vet. The vet also treated her other husky in case there were any ticks brought home. Here is the story of what happened from my cousin..

It saddens me to have to write this but on Tuesday June 24,2014 , I brought my beloved Maya to the vets for a check-up after being gone for 23 days . I wanted nothing but the best for her well being. Maya check up was good except she had quite a number of ticks on her. The vet administered a topical medicine called CERTIFECT to get rid of the ticks she also sent me one home to put on Maya's brother as they were rebonding in the same room. Within 24 hours Maya had, diarrhea and was very lethargic. We thought it was because of all that she had been thru. On Wenesday afternoon Maya's brother teddi was given his CERTIFECT so he did not contract tics from Maya, within 12 hours Teddi was exhibiting all the sysmptoms that Maya had. But it got worse . I rushed them immediately to the vets on Thursday . Teddy was given an antidote and scrubbed to remove the poison from CERTIFECT and given IV fluids . Unfortunately it was to late for Maya after all she went thru to find her way home she died in my arms a slow and painful death due to a product made by MERIAL company the same company that produces Frontline.Merial has been aware of this for sometime and has kept this product on the market knowing it can kill our beloved pets. Please Pass this on and save a life in honor of Maya After this ordeal, I did a tremendous amount of research on both Certifect and Amitraz. As it turns out, Amitraz can be incredibly toxic to some dogs, even at "normal" canine topical dosing amounts. Mortality is reported at < 5% if proper treatment is rendered.... MORTALITY! That means for every 20 people who's dog gets ill from this medicine, one of our precious animals will die. Symptoms of Amitraz toxicity are often cardiovascular, GI and neurologic. They include frequent urination, hypersalivation, depression, lethargy, vomiting, diarrhea, anorexia, shortness of breath, ataxia (stumbling), collapse, loss of consciousness, seizures and death. There were several case accounts of acute and chronic liver failure, kidney failure and paralysis.
First of all, I am truly sorry this happened. I can't say that my reactions would not have been any different if this were my dog.

Second, thanks for updating with more information.

I have a couple questions. Was your cousins dogs already being treated with Frontline when the vet treated them with Certifect?

What did the vet say or do after all this? If there is such a morality rate using Certifect, which this is the first I have heard of it, then why are they still using it? Did anyone "grill" the vet over this?

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06-29-2014 11:42 AM
KaiserandStella I'm very sorry that you all went through that.. It's literally gambling with a dogs life and well being using these products.
06-29-2014 11:24 AM
David Winners So terribly sorry for your loss. I hope Teddi pulls through fine.

Hopefully your post will reach the eyes of many and potentially save some lives.

So sad...
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