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09-09-2014 10:10 AM
Gwenhwyfair Carmen,

In blue below, ivermectin is a heart worm preventative. For clarification and understanding did you mean flea treatment such as Frontline?

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people that have psoriasis or excema tend to have flare ups at this time of year - know of a young child who would be red as a lobster , Vit D supplementation was helpful.

I was going to mention Vit B 12 also -

Fama is also receiving carrot and sweet red beet through her supplements already .

Canine Allergies: A New Look | Dogs Naturally Magazine

maybe this dog needs to have food sources with vitamin D, such as yogurt , liver , oily fish , eggs (also lecithin)
kefir - fermented milk products , a drop or two of cod liver oil .

If you know the dog has an immune depression come seasonal , autumnal changes , and you feel that ivermectin flea treatment is a must then change the schedule for the treatment , see if you can effect a change.

I have a lineolated parakeet , also moulting so on a "stress" seed formula for moulting .
09-09-2014 04:52 AM
David Winners I'm seeing a definite seasonal correlation in her symptoms. Thanks so much Carmen.

I'm stopping the ivermectin altogether.

Too much to write at this time. I'm in the field and will be busy until late Wednesday. More later.
09-07-2014 11:25 PM
carmspack people that have psoriasis or excema tend to have flare ups at this time of year - know of a young child who would be red as a lobster , Vit D supplementation was helpful.

I was going to mention Vit B 12 also -

Fama is also receiving carrot and sweet red beet through her supplements already .

Canine Allergies: A New Look | Dogs Naturally Magazine

maybe this dog needs to have food sources with vitamin D, such as yogurt , liver , oily fish , eggs (also lecithin)
kefir - fermented milk products , a drop or two of cod liver oil .

If you know the dog has an immune depression come seasonal , autumnal changes , and you feel that ivermectin flea treatment is a must then change the schedule for the treatment , see if you can effect a change.

I have a lineolated parakeet , also moulting so on a "stress" seed formula for moulting .
09-07-2014 09:19 PM
onyx'girl Carmen, I agree...reduced sunlight hours and environmental changes play into the skin and coat condition. I recently started giving all my dogs vitamin D daily(because of Karlo's condition I've been more diligent in supplementing) and I hope it helps.
With Onyx's extreme allergies, I am hoping the new oral(instead of the old injectable which we gave up on) serum will help her specific allergies. No matter what I've ever given her supplement-wise, she's always had flare ups in the late Summer.
Just like with my parrots, dogs will get rid of the summer undercoat, just to get in a plusher one for the winter months...my African Grey is losing down bigtime right now, and you'd think that down would have molted out back in April or May, not now.
09-07-2014 08:32 PM
carmspack alrighty then (translation -- okay then) I think we are getting somewhere.

David replied to my questions with this information "She spent 2 years at Bragg, North Carolina, 2 weeks in Ohio, and has been here since mid June. She has shown this before, in Indiana, Afghanistan, North Carolina and Arizona. Until recently, she was fed Hills SD ZD. Her vet record is full of Benedryl and prednisone, due to the same symptoms she is facing now. I will look back at dates and see if I can find any correlation to season. "

there , within that answer lies the solution.

This "allergic" response is Fama's cycle to seasonal changes --- not necessarily to molds and spores or air borne seeds -- because in all those locations and latitudes there is no common denominator that is botanical .

The common denominator is temporal , seasonal, reduced daylight hours.
Animals shed and stimulate undercoat , fur , by diminishing exposure to daylight. In the old days fur animals, foxes, mink were put into longer "night" to make the coat dense and luxurious.
Chickens are kept in longer daylight to stimulate egg production.

The sun is a powerful factor in hormones.
Any one notice that their females are all starting to cycle ??

a dog with known seasonal allergies , or "treatments" will have an additional immune challenge .
Sunshine regulates hormones including thyroid --

Fama is getting ALL the allergy reducing vitamins , including natural C , quercitin , papain, bromelain , omega 3's and has an improved digestive system through a better choice in basic foundation diet (raw meat) and digestive enzymes and broad based probiotics.

What she may need is additional vitamin D .

For brevity here are some things to look at Vitamin D in Atopic Dermatitis, Asthma and Allergic Diseases

dogs used in study --

SUNLIGHT, CANINE FERTILITY & VITAMIN D = REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH

just some things to think about (again!) for when you visit your vet and have tests done .
09-07-2014 05:23 PM
Susan_GSD_mom Something else I just remembered from our allergy dog days (sorry, it takes my old brain time to really kick in sometimes, lol)...

In your efforts to at least alleviate symptoms, even temporarily, try applying plain old Listerine to the affected skin with a cotton ball or soft rag. Make sure it's the original gold colored stuff, though, none of the newer Listerine with all sorts of extra ingredients. It takes away the itch for a while, at least.

Susan
09-07-2014 04:17 PM
David Winners Good to know Susan! Thanks for the info.
09-07-2014 03:46 PM
Susan_GSD_mom
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I also used an Arm and Hammer pet deodorizer product on the carpet before I vacuumed 2 weeks ago.
David, I did have a GSD in the middle 90s who reacted to the Arm & Hammer carpet products. He had food allergies, but I had him tested and there were a number of environmental things that affected him, too. As long as he was alive, I couldn't use those baking soda-based carpet products, though. Just something else to consider.

It sounds like you have the best route, though--a vet who specializes in such issues.

Susan
09-07-2014 11:48 AM
David Winners
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David I would test out the GOO product that I sent as a link -- and local bee POLLEN

Fama has been in a lot of environmental zones - her last one was at the military base which was where ? moved to where (approximately) so yet another set of environmental exposures . Asking so that you can think back if she had ever had a problem at any other time (like at the base?)

I don't think it is food related .
More likely molds, spores, pollen -- ragweedy type things .

google pyrethrin and dog allergies -- Common Insecticide Ingredient May Cause Allergic Reactions

inhalant ? would Fama the nose-dog go sniffing the baseboards ?
She spent 2 years at Bragg, North Carolina, 2 weeks in Ohio, and has been here since mid June. She has shown this before, in Indiana, Afghanistan, North Carolina and Arizona. Until recently, she was fed Hills SD ZD. Her vet record is full of Benedryl and prednisone, due to the same symptoms she is facing now. I will look back at dates and see if I can find any correlation to season.

I do not think it is food either. Symptoms come and go while food stays the same.

And yes... She certainly sniffs everything, including baseboards. I thought the permethrin was safe to use.

There is just so much to piece together. I'm getting there though.

Thanks for your help. Talk with you soon.
09-07-2014 11:34 AM
Wild Wolf This is my favourite thread... and love love love all the photos. <3
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