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06-23-2014 03:43 PM
lauren43 There's no way to know where it came from. And sadly knowing will not help fix the problem.

If you are already familiar with BAT training, just apply the same methods to people. It sounds to me that you will have to start pretty far away.

I would also give her a couple of days to cool down after a big reaction. I've heard the adrenaline and hormones are so amped up after a reaction like you described, it takes days for the dog to go back to normal, which means that she'll be quicker to react at an even shorter threshold than normal. I know there is a relaxation protocol out there, perhaps look for something like that.
06-23-2014 03:36 PM
Amurphy26 Sorry, I should of explained. We do BAT2 which is largely how she she has been improving with other dogs. It's different with people, her threshold is about 5 metres which is much less than with dogs. I'm just at a complete loss as to where it's come from.

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06-23-2014 03:14 PM
lauren43 I recommend BAT training. You want to start with her below threshold, this is before she even reacts to the dog, so you will have to determine how close you can be in order to train. Work on rewarding calm behavior when she sees other dogs (or ppl). Which may mean, the reactant (dog or person) is 30ft away, she is looking (but not hard staring or lunging towards said dog and is def not barking)..then reward. Rinse and repeat. If you do this correctly you will find that if she sees a dog in the distance she will look to you for guidance. On days you don't want to train, do not allow her to rehearse this behavior! Take her for walks when you know there will be no other dogs around, or if you see another dog duck behind a car or turn around and go the other way. Every rehearsal will make the behavior stronger.

Another idea is to create a look at that cue. Do this at home, with little distractions. Say "Look at that", point if you want. She can turn and look at whatever it is you are pointing at (and at this point it could be the grill in the back yard it doesn't matter) and when she turns back to you, reward her. Keep working on a solid "look at that" at home with any object, then work up to people or the other dog in the home. Then use it on walks.
06-23-2014 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Amurphy26 View Post
Anyone any ideas on why it's getting worse? I posted not that long ago wondering if our other dog was part of the problem. He can bark when he gets excited but recently I've noticed he's not doing a thing when she goes mad.
Do you think being stuck in the house could be having a big impact?

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As far as I know, it's always going to get worse unless something is done about it. Otherwise, it just escalates with every episode. That's what I was told and that's what I saw with a few dogs.

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06-23-2014 03:03 PM
Amurphy26 Anyone any ideas on why it's getting worse? I posted not that long ago wondering if our other dog was part of the problem. He can bark when he gets excited but recently I've noticed he's not doing a thing when she goes mad.
Do you think being stuck in the house could be having a big impact?

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06-23-2014 02:22 PM
Jax08 I would not use a prong collar on a reactive dog. I did this with Jax and it only ramped her up and made it much worse. I have used a nylon choke on my puppy when he was being a punk (not reactive, jsut being a punk with other dogs)
06-23-2014 02:17 PM
lalachka Think of the evil eye you'd get if your dog actually got to someone.

I know what you're saying but in my mind, people should be thankful I'm controlling my dog. The prong is a life saver, I am calm because I know I got him (I use a backup collar too, prongs can come apart).
It's a diff experience. You'd love it.

If your dog ever got to close to anyone or god forbid bit someone - they'd run to the lawyers. You do what you have to do. If someone is uneducated - that's their problem.

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06-23-2014 12:52 PM
ksotto333 Google secret power, it's a prong collar securely stitched inside of a nylon collar. I have one for the double security, and how nice it looks. No one can tell that you have a prong, if you are still worried about others..
06-23-2014 10:11 AM
lyssa62 I have to say again though I am 100% sure the the prong collar is what helped us move along faster. And I thank my trainer for teaching me how to use it correctly -- I was scared
to death of them. Now I have moved onto a harness and I have little to no pulling issues. (when we walk with our friends and their dogs..the meet and greet time is pulling and jumping)...that's always going to be a work in progress ...I think Roxy has a little bit of blonde in her and thinks it's been months instead of 24 hours that she has seen her friends. It's like a reunion and hugging and kissing must commence.
06-23-2014 10:08 AM
lyssa62 I guess what I would try ( and I am by far no expert).....get some people who aren't intimidated by her....sit outside with her on a short leash and have people walk past and work with her on ignoring them. I think I would try to get her to not be reactive before I worked on anything else...but that's just ME.
My Roxy is a GREAT dog...responds well to commands ...but really isn't a people person ( kind of like me) So we've worked really hard on just doing our walking and ignoring what is going on around us.
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