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06-20-2014 05:32 PM
Flutter Yes, I do. He has pretty bad allergies so I get the ones that are only fruit or veggie puree. No added sugar/starch/binder of any kind. They can be difficult to find so I stock up if I can find them on sale. I'd make my own fruit and veggie mix but for right now this is so much easier. One jar lasts about a week.
06-20-2014 02:15 PM
Pax8
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Originally Posted by Flutter View Post
I'm doing homemade for my dog. I get ground meat and organ (no bone) and cook it at a low temperature as that's what dogs digest best (compared to cooking at medium or high temperatures). I also add some baby food (for fruit and veggies). I don't feed any grains.

One of the reasons I'm cooking is because my dog has been vomiting up bone. Bone isn't exactly all that nutritious for dogs. It's main benefit is calcium (and phosphorous ) and some minerals. I did the math, worked out how much phosphorous my dog is getting from the meat and add an appropriate amount of calcium. I use ground eggshells. There's also a seaweed calcium supplement. To make up for the minerals that bone would contain I add kelp.

ETA: I save the liquid from cooking the meat and organ mix and feed this to my dog as well.
That's an excellent way to do a homecooked diet without using bone. The only thing that I would double check is the baby food. Do you get an all natural kind? Most of the basic baby foods I see in stores seem like they're pretty much all sugar.
06-20-2014 11:48 AM
Flutter
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I was really interested in this post until it somehow turned to raw. Pretty sure in the second sentence the OP says they don't want to feed raw. I am thinking of doing something similar to the original post and was hoping for some advice that did not include raw.
I'm doing homemade for my dog. I get ground meat and organ (no bone) and cook it at a low temperature as that's what dogs digest best (compared to cooking at medium or high temperatures). I also add some baby food (for fruit and veggies). I don't feed any grains.

One of the reasons I'm cooking is because my dog has been vomiting up bone. Bone isn't exactly all that nutritious for dogs. It's main benefit is calcium (and phosphorous ) and some minerals. I did the math, worked out how much phosphorous my dog is getting from the meat and add an appropriate amount of calcium. I use ground eggshells. There's also a seaweed calcium supplement. To make up for the minerals that bone would contain I add kelp.

ETA: I save the liquid from cooking the meat and organ mix and feed this to my dog as well.
06-20-2014 11:25 AM
DobbyDad I was really interested in this post until it somehow turned to raw. Pretty sure in the second sentence the OP says they don't want to feed raw. I am thinking of doing something similar to the original post and was hoping for some advice that did not include raw.
06-20-2014 05:49 AM
Sunflowers They can eat veggies. But they don't need them.

I like to recommend the simplest start possible, because people can be overwhelmed by raw.

Another really informative site.

http://www.rawfeddogs.org/benefits.html
06-20-2014 05:47 AM
Pax8
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It doesn't have to be so complicated. You can buy a whole chicken, cut it in half, and feed it to your dog, for now.

They don't need vegetables.

All you need is some Feedsentials as a supplement, a little sunflower or coconut oil, and you are good to go.

All you have to do is compare a kibble fed dogs coat to one that is raw fed to understand that they can assimilate the nutrients much better from real, raw food. Dogs were not designed to eat food that has been mixed with grains and and cooked at 600.

There is a ton of info on the net, a lot of it confusing. Here is a site I found helpful.
Practical Answers to Practical Questions About Raw
Veggies can depend. I know of several people who very successfully feed a meat, veggie, and fruit diet. The other thing is because it can be at least partially personal preference, I'm not a fan of pushing someone into feeding a diet they are uncomfortable with.

At the same time though, Ellie, if you want to do a meat based diet, it is important that you somehow get all three meat components (muscle meat, bone, and organ) in or it will likely be very unbalanced.
06-20-2014 05:42 AM
Pax8 Why Organ Meat Is Important For The Raw Fed Dog | Dogs Naturally Magazine

This page has a good explanation so I don't have to type it all out. But basically they are MUCH more nutrient dense than anything else.
06-20-2014 05:40 AM
Sunflowers
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Originally Posted by Ellimaybel View Post
I'll admit that feeding raw bones goes against everything I've ever been told about dogs for the majority of 34 years I've been alive. That part makes me nervous. I didn't realize the organs and stuff would be so inexpensive. Why are the organs so important in this diet? What do they contain compared to kibble and the rest of the meat? I ask because this is all so new to me.
It doesn't have to be so complicated. You can buy a whole chicken, cut it in half, and feed it to your dog, for now.

They don't need vegetables.

All you need is some Feedsentials as a supplement, a little sunflower or coconut oil, and you are good to go.

All you have to do is compare a kibble fed dog's coat, teeth and smell to one that is raw fed to understand that they can assimilate the nutrients much better from real, raw food. Dogs were not designed to eat food that has been mixed with grains, dehydrated, and cooked at 600.


You can go on YouTube and watch lots of dogs eating raw.
Those bones not only firm up the stool, but they empty the anal glands as the dog poops. In addition, they function as a fantastic toothbrush to keep your dog's teeth and gums very healthy.

There is a ton of info on the net, a lot of it confusing. Here is a site I found helpful.
http://rawfed.com/myths/feedraw.html
06-20-2014 05:36 AM
Ellimaybel I'll admit that feeding raw bones goes against everything I've ever been told about dogs for the majority of 34 years I've been alive. That part makes me nervous. I didn't realize the organs and stuff would be so inexpensive. Why are the organs so important in this diet? What do they contain compared to kibble and the rest of the meat? I ask because this is all so new to me.
06-20-2014 05:14 AM
Pax8 Oh, I do see some people recommend you add a general multivitamin that includes trace minerals and/or a vitamin E supplement on a raw diet. But that will depend on personal preference. I don't, I just thought I'd mention it.
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