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06-20-2014 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blueangele View Post
I rescued a 1 year old white GSD, poor dog was not even at my house 24 hours before I took him to the vet and him x-rayed, blood work done, exam, etc. (My dog before him had died of Cancer and it was one of the worst dog experiences of my life). I am so glad I got an older dog, we went through a couple of months of terror while he figured out that people are not for chewing on (not aggressive, just puppy) but now that he has matured a bit he is wonderful, friendly, a great dog to be around. You sound like you know your mind, maybe go to a rescue, if they are good, they will ask you all sorts of questions about your lifestyle...offer to foster, see if a GSD is right for you and then you can have a foster fail plan in place!
Ahhh yes, the puppy play stages! Fostering is something we have had in mind and am looking for rescues here and there and discussing it with family to see where we can go from here. From a male/female point of view, do you think we should favour males over females? Our Cav is male and gets on with all genders but having said that, female dogs that we have had in the house we have noticed have been more bossy toward our cav (although im wondering after the settling in period this might calm down? Its also something we could correct with training but we have never had any of our fosters longer then 2 weeks or so to actually end up working out what happens) . Its nothing we cant handle either way though, just wondering more than anything. Thanks so much for all the info, folks! Great to have clarification with everything.
06-20-2014 01:48 PM
blueangele I rescued a 1 year old white GSD, poor dog was not even at my house 24 hours before I took him to the vet and him x-rayed, blood work done, exam, etc. (My dog before him had died of Cancer and it was one of the worst dog experiences of my life). I am so glad I got an older dog, we went through a couple of months of terror while he figured out that people are not for chewing on (not aggressive, just puppy) but now that he has matured a bit he is wonderful, friendly, a great dog to be around. You sound like you know your mind, maybe go to a rescue, if they are good, they will ask you all sorts of questions about your lifestyle...offer to foster, see if a GSD is right for you and then you can have a foster fail plan in place!
06-20-2014 09:39 AM
Ace GSD i dont always have a dog but when i do i get a german shepherd
06-20-2014 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JakodaCD OA View Post
unfortunately there can be ALOT of health issues with gsd's..allergies/ibd/sibo/pannus/ as well as structural, hd/ed/dm. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

No one can predict the future, the best you can do is find a good breeder who's got some healthy/sound dogs behind them, and hope for the best..

Certainly not saying all gsd's end up with health issues, but there are many that do.
that's my thoughts exactly after thinking it over a bit more. We searching for a good breeder (just seeing what's out there as of now) , there seem to be a few around us from what we can make out. Should be interesting!
06-20-2014 07:03 AM
JakodaCD OA unfortunately there can be ALOT of health issues with gsd's..allergies/ibd/sibo/pannus/ as well as structural, hd/ed/dm. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

No one can predict the future, the best you can do is find a good breeder who's got some healthy/sound dogs behind them, and hope for the best..

Certainly not saying all gsd's end up with health issues, but there are many that do.
06-19-2014 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JakodaCD OA View Post
I also want to say you sound very mature and responsible for a 17 year old..Kudos to you!

When you say KC, are you talking AKC??? other registry?? not sure what "KC" your referring to.

I agree with alot thats been already posted.

I'm not sure I'd worry to much about your cav, he sounds like a stable dog that wouldn't have a problem accepting a new one.

However, gsd's can be biting machines, a puppy may torment your older dog just wanting to 'play', and they can be real tough players..Just something to think about.

If your not 'set' on a puppy, maybe you can find a little bit older puppy that would fit in..and not be so "pestering".

I can't lump ALL gsd's into one thing, because there is such a difference, in behaviors/temperament/activity level..

Maybe if you post your general location, someone can point you in the direction of a breeder, meet them, meet their dogs..
Thanks!

Yeah I can see the standpoint of the rough puppy play... Im not sure itd be a problem or not as our cav doesnt play anymore due to his age/condition so atleast it wouldnt be a two way street if such a situation did occur. (meaning the GSD would hopefully get that he isnt gonna play and go solo) Theres hiding places he goes when things get a bit hectic like he has a crate or in the living room he goes under the sideboard which would offer him some refuge which is a start if the GSD trys to play with him. Although if Im honest, its not often hes out of our sight and if we ever have a new resident dog in the house or if we ever have a GSD we will be making sure nothing like that is going on (although this obviously isnt possible 100% of the time) but it is a possibility to consider and something to think about for sure.

As for Kennel Club I do mean Kennel Club UK (Should have mentioned that) which seems slightly dodgy from the documentaries I have watched on it over the years (See Pedigree Dogs Exposed to find out more if you want to see the one with GSDs in it, look for Pedigree Dogs Exposed: 3 Years on. It features a Cavalier with SM/CM, ours is no where near that bad and youd never know to look at him and he does lead a normal life thanks to medication. Make sure its the english one made by the BBC. It used to be on Youtube but it has conveniently disappeared since... Please note though, it does contain some disturbing footage but some very interesting info) and im wondering if their standards might not have the dogs health interests at heart.. Unsure of whether or not to trust their judgement or not if Im honest. (Our cavalier isnt KC registered but I know a few that are KC registered and have the condition. I wouldnt mind but this was uncovered in 2008 and not much has changed from what I can make out...)

We do have a GSD rescue near to us (I think... I searched in Google to see what was there and saw a few around my area which look like they might be good) which is something we could definitely consider! Wel weigh all our options up and see what conclusion we can come to.

Also, am I worrying too much about one existing health condition, are there others I should be considering aswell? Hip Dysplasia seems to be the main big issue from what I can make out because most GSDs I have known have ended up with it.. I know most big dogs probably will get it at some point (or is that just general hip issues in normal dogs?) but I assume in GSDs its worse?

What does this mean for insurance too? Our cav is *really* expensive for insurance but then again he is one of the worst breeds to insure as you can imagine. I suppose aswell the treatments for Cavaliers are more expensive because you have to get an MRI scan and then they have to go on (9 times out of 10) Gabapentin and a steroid or NSAIDs which are rather expensive. Not that I know that much about how much a GSDs health costs if Im honest, just comparing the two from what I know.

I think if we do get a GSD and if we think that health problems (Although hopefully a KC registered puppy or decent breeder would help this not be the case) could be a problem in the future we might reinsure with M&S insurance. We could have gone with Pet Plan for our current dog but the amount of people that have tried to get their dog to see a neurologist and get treatment + MRI scan under a claim has been very little. At least with M&S we have paid a lot all his life but it has paid off as his condition is dreadfully expensive. (Thank god they did pay up as he was diagnosed 5 days before Xmas!)

I hope I dont look like some sort of dog hypercondriact! :lol: Just making sure we know what potential health issues the breed might have and to make sure we are prepared for what the future may hold so we can help quicker.

As to my where abouts, I live in Birmingham in the UK.
06-19-2014 07:03 PM
lauren43 I think he's referring to the ukc, no? I would say look for dogs that could be registered, but actually registering the dog you get will be totally up to you. To me it's more important to find a breeder breeding for the standards than anything else. You want a sound dog in temperament and form and that does proper health testing.
06-19-2014 06:46 PM
JakodaCD OA I also want to say you sound very mature and responsible for a 17 year old..Kudos to you!

When you say KC, are you talking AKC??? other registry?? not sure what "KC" your referring to.

I agree with alot thats been already posted.

I'm not sure I'd worry to much about your cav, he sounds like a stable dog that wouldn't have a problem accepting a new one.

However, gsd's can be biting machines, a puppy may torment your older dog just wanting to 'play', and they can be real tough players..Just something to think about.

If your not 'set' on a puppy, maybe you can find a little bit older puppy that would fit in..and not be so "pestering".

I can't lump ALL gsd's into one thing, because there is such a difference, in behaviors/temperament/activity level..

Maybe if you post your general location, someone can point you in the direction of a breeder, meet them, meet their dogs..
06-19-2014 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lauren43 View Post
All I want to add is you sound like the most mature 17 year old in the world, I comend you for looking around and doing your research. I think others have warned you about the work you have to put in, it's a long process to get the puppy to become the adult dog you've dreamt about. But if your willing and able, it always more than worth the effort.
Thanks both for your kind words! Yeah, bringing one up is a lot of work, more than people realise.

One question about the KC registration though... Is it worth paying extra for KC? Im not looking at from a "Oh, look at me and my KC registered dog!" POV, rather from a health point of view.
Would I be shooting my self in the foot by paying for a KC registered puppy? What I mean by that, KC registered dogs have standards and im wondering if those standards could be that dogs downfall... Like how they might require the legs to be a certain way in order to get a KC registration and this way of the legs might cause them to become a problem later in life kind of a thing. Or maybe it would work in my favour because they were (apparently) reforming their standards to ensure healthy breeding?
Unsure of what to think to be honest.
Any insight will be most welcome
06-19-2014 04:42 PM
lauren43 All I want to add is you sound like the most mature 17 year old in the world, I comend you for looking around and doing your research. I think others have warned you about the work you have to put in, it's a long process to get the puppy to become the adult dog you've dreamt about. But if your willing and able, it always more than worth the effort.
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