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|11-14-2014 11:26 AM|
Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
Honestly, it's clear there were some really horrible GSDs there but i doubt the breeders are surprised. Repeatedly breeding average dogs for several generations, that's what you get
There's a malinois getting run off here and a showline GSD passing....
Good and bad dogs everywhere and in every breed but i think the beauty of the GSD is in itself a problem, Many working line breeders still breed average females that can barely give full grips consistently on the field or have some environmental issues to popular studs and expect magic plus the big craze on size. People boasting about their dogs that are well over 100 pounds ...Nonetheless, there will always be some breeders committed to breeding the best to the best.
Nice dog at 12:57
|06-13-2014 07:06 PM|
hard to really make comments on the dogs .
Some handlers were prepared and were part of the set up. They spun around which signals the dog that "you" are concerned, which gives a different response.
The decoy gave no signal as to his intentions when he comes on to the scene.
The dogs look first and then respond .
You can not have your dog immediately assume that someone coming up on you from behind is a threat .
I couldn't go to the Beach boardwalk if that were the case.
In French ring there are exercises where the dog watches your back.
|06-13-2014 04:35 PM|
I actually have no clue if they were green or not. Some seemed more trained then others. What I was interested in was initial response. Whether the dogs are working already or not the first response is where I think we saw whats in the dog.
The jug test was also interesting some dogs stayed in the fight a few were downright afraid of the weird decoy. You could see it in their ear set and body carriage. Does the dog presented with a non traditional target aggress and continue after a miss or does he start to fall apart?
|06-13-2014 02:55 PM|
I'm with Boomer here actually. I watch the video. Some dogs were scared off but bounced back, some did well, and others...
But one thing in common is that they all knew what they were looking for. The leg bites especially, they had other targets presented to them but still went for the legs. And otherwise looked like they have at least had a few bites in them.
The results are what they are, but don't try to sell me the idea that these are fresh dogs off the streets, people's pets, that all of a sudden knew how to target the like 3 places we usually train them to. That **** ain't instinct
But whatever, what do I know... just looked, to me, like the dogs mostly knew what they were looking for
|06-13-2014 02:42 PM|
|jmdjack||According to Hans (Alpine), over on his board, this is a memorial "fun match" of police and military dogs, not a test.|
|06-13-2014 02:33 PM|
|boomer11||And we must have different definitions of targeting because when the guy is shaking the jugs, some of those dogs miss and repeatedly try to bite the same arm over and over. Last I checked that isn't an instinctual behavior but a trained one|
|06-13-2014 02:26 PM|
Originally Posted by mycobraracr View Post
And some of those "untrained" dogs had very clean outs when told. Hmmm
|06-13-2014 02:15 PM|
Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
Ever hear of fight or flight? Here is a test for you. Go to a bar tonight. Just start charging random guys. Some will back up or try to avoid you. Some will stand their ground and punch you in the face. Ask those that punched you in the face if they are trained fighters. I'm sure the majority are not. It's just in them.
Those dogs didn't appear to be targeting to me. Just biting the first thing they can get to. Some even bit the chest/stomach area. Hmm....
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|06-13-2014 10:46 AM|
We must be watching different videos because those dogs looked trained to me.
Unless you're telling me a dog knows to instantly go for a leg bite? Those dogs knew to target leg and fore arm.
Charging a green dog from behind would be a better test than charging the handler.
|06-13-2014 09:23 AM|
Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
These dogs all appeared to have very minimal training if any at all. It's not about training but nerve. It wasn't a test of already trained K9's, but a test to see if the dogs have the what it takes to be K9's.
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