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06-12-2014 06:19 AM
Elsieb Thanks. He is now either attached to me or closed in the kitchen with me or in his crate. We'll see how it goes.
06-11-2014 10:11 PM
middleofnowhere Only thing I would change to Deno's post is the "verbal brick" - I'd just use an "oops" and move him outside. The "oops" wouldn't be loud or dramatic.
Rather than leaving him loose and keeping an eye on him, you might want to try leashing him to you instead. (I was not very successful with either method with the last pup... Took forever to house train.)

I think your "reputable" trainer was a little nuts to slap an ecollar on a youngster.
06-11-2014 09:23 PM
Deno He is obviously not house trained and you should start house training today. When he's in the house running free, don't
take your eyes off him. Watch his body language and try to catch him before goes. The second he looks like he's going to
to pee or whatever throw a NO at him in the form of a verbal brick and immediately take him outside until he goes, the second
he starts to pee or whatever outside, lavishly praise him like it's the greatest thing in the world with lots of "good puppy".
Anytime he goes #1 or #2 outside you should lavishly praise him . You should also take him out every 15 minutes or
so where you lavishly praise him when he does his business.

13 months old is in no way to young for an e-collar to be properly used. But I would suggest at this time using NO in the form
of a verbal brick in it's place.
06-11-2014 03:32 PM
Michele Maxcy When Willow came to live with us at 9 months, she had a few accidents, in the kitchen. My thought was for one she did not know us at all, she did not know the house and had no clue at what door etc. as to ask to go out. I started from scratch with her and it only took a short while for her to get things sorted out. Willow responds best to calm quite commands and lots of love and of course treats. We use the "Nothing in Life is Free" method with her and it has been working well. She is now 14 months old and has strongly bonded to the family. We do still crate her at night.
06-11-2014 02:22 PM
Elsieb We got him from a very reputable trainer. The e collar has helped a couple of times when he ran from me in the back yard and when he kept going to dig in my garden after being told no. I don't keep it on all the time and I try to keep it as low as possible. I appreciate the feedback. I am prob guilty of love too much train too little, but I am trying to be firm. When you say give him house freedom when he earns it, does that mean keeping him in his crate or on a leash with me?
06-11-2014 01:57 PM
Bear L Is he wearing the ecollar inside the house all the time as well? Do you know for certainty how he was trained on it and for what reasons?

Potty training can usually be taught easily without an e-collar, especially on a 13 months old. The punishment thru e-collar is excessive in my opinion.
06-11-2014 01:55 PM
Sunflowers Doesn't look as if he was house trained very well, does it?
So does it make sense to try and stay "consistent"?

Build a bond with the dog. Give him house freedom only when he earns it.
Research the correct use of an e collar or get rid of it and train the dog. Whoever gave him up probably used that thing with no clue, and when they got bad results they dumped the dog.
06-11-2014 01:52 PM
Elsieb No he hasn't lifted his leg yet. What does that indicate?
06-11-2014 01:51 PM
Elsieb Thank you both. The e collar is not my choice but he was trained on it and I am trying to stay consistent. Husband said same thing about e collar and peeing. Will def see about the uti, thanks.
06-11-2014 01:25 PM
middleofnowhere OK whomever had him before was, I think, out of line using an e collar on a dog that young. Put it away.
Then have him vet checked for an UTI.
If he has no UTI, then handle like an 8 week old as advised by Sunflowers
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