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06-10-2014 10:35 PM
hunterisgreat It's a good bit better this evening so I'm thinking/hoping it's just a sprain
06-10-2014 10:17 PM
canyadoit Soft tissue injury will not show on xray A compleat rupture maybe If a vet tells you different he is feeding you mule muffins Ask your own md A mir yes xray not a chance
06-10-2014 10:13 PM
canyadoit I have had lots of dogs with ccl injuries Not saying that is what you have The most common injury for me Have had my share of front end injuries as well Soft tissue damage is soft tissue damage Restricted movement is paramount in healing That is why the crate is needed to heal the dog
If any of you had a acl injury and had no Zimmerman splint to support it any flexing of the area is and will be painfull Same for the dog
A ccl or any soft tissue injury are tears A good bruise is a very small tear in tissue If movement is allowed will cause more tearing Thus more swelling Lots of excessive damage is caused by not restricting the dog
Any scrip meds are so hard on the kidney liver and pancreas
Joint surgery is the number one money maker for vets with a lower post surgery preformance than you would think Ccl surgery I would think cost 3-5000 dollars
Crate comfinement four weeks The dog will not be a gimp from sever restricted movement The dog will be a gimp if let on its own and walks jumps up on the couch jumps down stairs etc

The dog will lie and want to go But the joint is not ready and will fail Excessive heat in the damaged area is the first sign Most do not know to look there (Why I belive in hands on rub down each nite My hands know) Most the first sign is the limp well that be number ten on my list
Anyway the joint will fail again maybe a compleat tear or a blow out if not restricted in movement It may take years to realy see the damage Then when the dog is seven it is starting to be a gimp
Then you have some harsh questions to ask yourself
Read up on non surgical procedures for ccl or any other soft tissue joint injuries
My female is like a tank in heavy bush Rarely gets hurt she is eight this year My male he trys to keep up to heidi and dose but gets banged up alot He has such high drive he keeps on going He is under three has not been hurt in five months though He last was a partial tear r ccl Eight weeks just crate four weeks restricted light walks longest 500yds once in a day Three weeks of light conditioning Today he is a solid 41.8 kilos fast turns on a dime and has great endurance
Myself I have ruined many a dog in my days by going to fast with a injury to soft tissue I learned the hard way in the 70's and 80's
Good luck with the injury you most likely will see more in the future just part of having a gsd Keep notes
06-10-2014 07:15 PM
GatorBytes Could be an Iliopsoas injury. Jax08 pointed this out a yr. ago when I was searching for an answer to an acquaintances dog.

Seems it is underdiagnosed and can mimic a knee injury.

I had a friend who had a GSD that had a seemingly ACL tear. Went for x-rays on the knee. The vet did the hip instead and the wrong side and scripted NSAID (dog never took, was returned)

So took to an ortho specialist at e-vet. They did x-rays and said, yeah, might be a cruciate tear, won't know till we open him up...that'll be $5000.00.

Took the dog home, went to holistic vet, she scripted tramadol. 1 week later you never would have known he was having trouble. Leg down, charging like a maniac. The dog only took 2 days worth
06-10-2014 05:36 PM
Nigel Hopefully a week or two of rest and restricted exercise (short walks) will take care of it. If after a period of rest the "favoring" returns, might suspect something like a cruciate ligament tear, hope not.
06-10-2014 03:12 PM
Gretchen If you have any anti-inflammatory medication, I'd give it for a few days and also do exercise restriction for two weeks. No unnecessary jumping or playing, just moderate walks, like 10 minutes walks 3x day. Our dog had a partially torn ligament - there was no visible swelling or redness. Our regular vet could not feel any difference but the ortho vet was able to feel extra fluid in the joint/knee. I'd expect a soft tissue injury. Right now just time and patience to heal.
06-10-2014 03:07 PM
robk Going through this exact same thing with my boy. He injured his right hind foot. It was visibly swollen so I took him to the vet to be xrayed. They said all his bones and joints looked normal and he had a soft tissue injury. He favored it for about a week. Vet gave vetprofin. After about a week he seamed like he was back to his normal self. I let him rest for about another 3 weeks prior to doing any strenuous work with him. After about a month I sent him over the hurdle about a half dozen times. After the last jump he acted like he was having a bit of pain in his rear leg again. Apparently a month was not enough time to fully heal. Now I am looking at the prospect of no jumping until the fall just to make sure he is healed enough to make it through the trial season. Ugh.
06-10-2014 02:44 PM
jocoyn When I went to the recent WCU Advanced cadaver seminar they had one day of a sports/rehab vet.....and she was dead set against working dogs jumping into or out of vehicles. .........I was so impressed with what I saw, I made an appointment with a local rehab vet who spent the time with me doing range of motion exercise and gave me various exercises to strenghten different areas. She, too was very happy to see the ramp on the high tailgate of the truck AND said we should also use it for going in; I was only using it to keep him from jumping onto his carpals on asphalt.

These folks see many sports injuries and reach out to working dog folks with plans for maintaining working flexibility and ability to prevent injuries. They can also assess things pretty will without x-rays and maybe give some guidance specific to their craft? I am certain you have one on Charleston.

It was, I think a good investment, of course I walked out with some Fit Paws stuff
06-10-2014 02:29 PM
hunterisgreat
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I wouldn't crate confine . You need motion to keep things strong , especially ligaments and cartilage. If the disfunction happened after the posing and having that one foot extended (too far and unnatural because it was without motion ) , then it could be like the ladies who wear heels and then go to wearing flats . Or flats and then having some function that requires more formal dress and heels. That heel has not been stretched out . Used to being one length.

so with dog laying down , take that foot and gently move it the other way. with gradation in compressing , gently rock , release, compress a little more , till you have full range again.

Natural vitamin C --

for dogs doing urban rescue , disaster search on rubble and very uneven or shifting ground a full range of motion stretch , extend and fold (compress) helps prevent injuries.
I think whatever caused it was him jumping into my (packed full) SUV and not landing in there as he expected. Hard to explain. He failed to look before he leaped lol. I don't *believe* it was related to stacking.
06-10-2014 02:19 PM
carmspack I wouldn't crate confine . You need motion to keep things strong , especially ligaments and cartilage. If the disfunction happened after the posing and having that one foot extended (too far and unnatural because it was without motion ) , then it could be like the ladies who wear heels and then go to wearing flats . Or flats and then having some function that requires more formal dress and heels. That heel has not been stretched out . Used to being one length.

so with dog laying down , take that foot and gently move it the other way. with gradation in compressing , gently rock , release, compress a little more , till you have full range again.

Natural vitamin C --

for dogs doing urban rescue , disaster search on rubble and very uneven or shifting ground a full range of motion stretch , extend and fold (compress) helps prevent injuries.
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