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06-10-2014 10:31 AM
jafo220
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
backing up in the back transport.
Where did you get your ball?

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06-09-2014 08:12 PM
Blitzkrieg1
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Gatordog did what? Uturns or backing up?


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backing up in the back transport.
06-09-2014 08:10 PM
lalachka Gatordog did what? Uturns or backing up?


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06-09-2014 07:59 PM
Blitzkrieg1
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Wow that is impressive! How do you do that??

My guy has absolutely 'zero" interest in toys! He walks off leash front or back (I let him chose) and does not try to bite the crap out of people or attack dogs!

But all I saw was a what your dog can do not a how I did it, what did I miss???
Thanks chip.
If the dog doesnt have object drive use food and marker training then layer the prong and e collar over it. I have vid of a dutchy and a GSD that I trained with collar and Food. Not as nice but when the drive is low you do what works.

I taught her using leash pressure with prong and later e collar. Paired it with marker training. first food then ball
06-09-2014 07:51 PM
Blitzkrieg1
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Lol I didn't buy focused heeling. That one sounded straight sport related and I skipped over it. Maybe I shouldn't've)))))

Anyway, someone already told me to differentiate between easy and heel but I never want him ahead. IME once he gets ahead even an inch then he will keep getting ahead little by little and then he's pulling. Once he's ahead at least a little I get lost at what point to correct. I already let him get a foot ahead, why am I correcting now? I feel I'm confusing him and as someone told me after watching a video of us walk, 'he doesn't understand why he's corrected, he feels the corrections are just part of the walk'.

That's a sad thought. I've been very careful with corrections for pulling since then.
The DVD is good for fixing a lot of issues you run into with heeling. I taught the correct position standing still then added movement. Dog forges. Pop pop pop until back in position. Make the position like stone it never changes. No leeway make it black or white
For me its her shoulder to my leg. I find teaching the dog to step back with you or follow the left leg gets positioning more clear in the dogs head. Also teach with a high value object on the ground. Put the dog in drive it creates conflict but also brings clarity faster imo.


I like the idea of backing up. And I saw ME mention it in Ecollar video yesterday. I will teach that.
Right now we make uturns when he gets ahead and my head spins from uturning non stop lol

Gatordog did this in her protection vid to stop forging during the transport. Looks like it worked well for her.

OK so your dog will pull if yu let her? That means they never actually learn not to pull?



I could probably break her of it If I wanted too but I like pulling in protection. So I just put it on que. I tend to be a bit intense with OB which can cause hander conflict on the field. So I let her get away with some stuff.







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I used it several times watch real close you can see her shake her head a bit here and there.
06-09-2014 07:30 PM
Chip18 [quote=mego;5621921]
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:P
Yep, even I'm generalizing. Sorry Chip, I haven't read every page in the thread and I guess I was a little irritated writing my reply because every response I did peruse was along the same lines.

Anyhow, from me as well, carry on!
Someone else just chimed in with a compliment also.

It's done so time to let "That" go but the thread is becoming actually very informative!
06-09-2014 07:27 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
Here is how I taught "Pet Heeling". In the vid I was using an E Collar not a prong but I did the exact same things with the prong before I used the E Collar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yle7naUfEhQ
Wow that is impressive! How do you do that??

My guy has absolutely 'zero" interest in toys! He walks off leash front or back (I let him chose) and does not try to bite the crap out of people or attack dogs!

But all I saw was a what your dog can do not a how I did it, what did I miss???
06-09-2014 07:23 PM
mego [quote=Chip18;5621889]
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I prefer the term "most" instead of everyone!

Carry on again.
:P
Yep, even I'm generalizing. Sorry Chip, I haven't read every page in the thread and I guess I was a little irritated writing my reply because every response I did peruse was along the same lines.

Anywho, from me as well, carry on!
06-09-2014 07:09 PM
Chip18
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Well I taught my Boxer to chase rabbits to the North (the mountains) and not the South (the highway) with my voice. So you don't always needs a tool if you have a solid relationship with your dog!

Certainly "I" would not advocate putting an E collar on a puppy! Nevertheless, the OP 'appears" to have solved this problem?

Credit where credit is do so congratulations to the OP sounds like it worked for you!

OK all carry on!
[quote=mego;5620785]
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Everyone here is under the assumption that the OP is just going to start shocking the crap out of his dog because he asked a QUESTION about using it for this behavior. He's shown a pretty good understanding of the various types of conditioning and he might not even find it necessary to stim the dog.
.

Everyone is assuming here...assuming that OP is shock-happy, questioning what happens when a command gets ignored, what's the next step? but the reality is if someone walked in here and said "my dog comes every time when I say Hier and he stopped chasing the cats" there aren't going to be a line of people saying "what happens when he doesn't respond to Hier". Not at that point yet. He's not shocking the dog.
I prefer the term "most" instead of everyone!

Carry on again.
06-09-2014 06:12 PM
lalachka
Ecollar on puppy for VERY specific behaviors?

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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
Here is how I taught "Pet Heeling". In the vid I was using an E Collar not a prong but I did the exact same things with the prong before I used the E Collar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yle7naUfEhQ



You used the Ecollar in the video? I didn't catch it.

Nice)))))), i'd be happy if my doggie was on my leg like that. This and the backing up is in the focused heeling DVD?

Also, when she sits and you move she sits closer to you, you move again, she sits closer... What's that called? And which video has that?


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