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06-07-2014 09:46 AM
brightspot
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Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
And we just heard the bird house thing seems to work, it's at least a quick fix it seems.
It didn't work, per-se. What it did do was calm all the dogs enough to get my dogs attention back on me. Enough to call him off.

This will give me enough time to strengthen his recalls in a distracted setting and then transfer it to the yard like Chip has suggested.
06-07-2014 02:08 AM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Bob_McBob View Post
I'm still working on this with my male. My neighbours have two huskies that live outside in a pen and are left to run wild, and they consider him their greatest source of entertainment. The neighbours don't care at all and will actually let the dogs out of the pen if they see me out there with him. It's a chain link fence, and he will aggressively fence fight them for as long as he can if he's given the chance. I can't let him out there without a line; even after several months of daily obedience training, he doesn't give a hoot about a recall command if he's remotely close to his extremely low threshold with dogs or anything else that interests him. If he's actually fighting, you have to physically catch him and haul him back into the house. I just can't trust him out there untethered, and it makes the garden useless for training, which is a pretty miserable situation.
How old is this dog??

No recall in "this" situation or no recall at all..neither of which is acceptable!

I find talking to neighbors that have ill mannered dogs pretty much a waste of time myself. but I guest it can't hurt?

The video I posted will work, get out of your yard to train it, transfer the behavior to home. He has to be taught what you expect before he can do it!

It will take time and patience but it can be done!

An e collar would also be a viable option depending on the dogs age and as long as you do the necessary research or find and work with a good trainer!

And we just heard the bird house thing seems to work, it's at least a quick fix it seems.
06-07-2014 12:28 AM
Bob_McBob I'm still working on this with my male. My neighbours have two huskies that live outside in a pen and are left to run wild, and they consider him their greatest source of entertainment. The neighbours don't care at all and will actually let the dogs out of the pen if they see me out there with him. It's a chain link fence, and he will aggressively fence fight them for as long as he can if he's given the chance. I can't let him out there without a line; even after several months of daily obedience training, he doesn't give a hoot about a recall command if he's remotely close to his extremely low threshold with dogs or anything else that interests him. If he's actually fighting, you have to physically catch him and haul him back into the house. I just can't trust him out there untethered, and it makes the garden useless for training, which is a pretty miserable situation.
06-06-2014 11:44 AM
Chip18
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I had some success this morning. I set up the birdhouse bark control and allowed events to unfold. Wylie did his business and was sniffing around the yard. The neighbor's dogs came out. BARK! BARK! BARK! all around. the birdhouse was sending out the signal: the barks didn't stop but everyone settled down. I was able to call Wylie to me and reward him with the flirt pole. The terriers continued to bark on and off, but Wylie ignored them.

It's early to claim victory, but I think I have a plan that will work with time and practice.
Well that seems simple.
06-06-2014 11:00 AM
brightspot I had some success this morning. I set up the birdhouse bark control and allowed events to unfold. Wylie did his business and was sniffing around the yard. The neighbor's dogs came out. BARK! BARK! BARK! all around. the birdhouse was sending out the signal: the barks didn't stop but everyone settled down. I was able to call Wylie to me and reward him with the flirt pole. The terriers continued to bark on and off, but Wylie ignored them.

It's early to claim victory, but I think I have a plan that will work with time and practice.
06-05-2014 06:32 PM
jafo220 Chip makes a good point in working with your dog first and let the neighbors dogs do what ever unless they cross a boundary.

I speak from first hand experience with this. Not just talking out my backside. I expect my dog to leave that side of the yard alone when they are out and it's still a work in progress, but all I can really do is make sure I control my dog. What ever else happens with their dogs just happens. Funny thing is, this neighbor always comments on how well behaved my dog is and wished theirs were as well behaved and listen as well as my dog. I just shrug my shoulders. I'm on good speaking terms with them too. So being on good terms doesn't always mean they see things the same way, so be prepared for that. I hope it works out for you.

Also keep in mind, these dogs have just met. It may just be a feeling out process.
06-05-2014 05:57 PM
Chip18 I do like the "bird house thing" it's still a Bandaids (yeah I said it) but it sounds like a variable short term solution!

Working on the dog reactive without side dogs will work. Then you can transfer that behaviour home!
Been there done that. My guys don't do dog parks don't do play dates no outside dogs!

Nonetheless ,on one walk, I stopped to talk to a neighbor, her three yappers were behind a fence. They went ape crap barking at Rocky who stood behind me quietly while we spoke! We continued to speak, the little guys barked, barked, barked for a few more minutes...no response from Rocky. They then settled down and shut up and started to wag their tails!!
06-05-2014 10:41 AM
brightspot
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Originally Posted by GoldenGloves View Post
Get a "no bark birdhouse" and nail it on your side of the fence. It has a sonic sound they hate (you can't hear) that makes dogs on both sides stop right away... I had a fence fighting problem with the neighbors dog, my dogs ignored the other dog but occasionally sniff at the fence and it would charge them full speed. When the "birdhouse" would go off the neighbors dog would stop barking and mine realized to just stay away from that corner.
I will try this. I hope it works! It might be enough to diffuse the situation some so I can work with my dog with a little less distraction than a full-on run/bark fest.

I observed the reactions of the dogs this morning. The terriers started the barking, the lab did not participate. My dog joined in! Run, run, bark, bark.

The owner called for the terriers, they stopped barking and went to the back door. My pup stopped barking. I was able to distract him with the flirt pole. However, when the terriers started barking again, so did my dog. Hm. Interesting dynamics.
06-05-2014 01:03 AM
Ellimaybel
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Originally Posted by GoldenGloves View Post
Get a "no bark birdhouse" and nail it on your side of the fence. It has a sonic sound they hate (you can't hear) that makes dogs on both sides stop right away... I had a fence fighting problem with the neighbors dog, my dogs ignored the other dog but occasionally sniff at the fence and it would charge them full speed. When the "birdhouse" would go off the neighbors dog would stop barking and mine realized to just stay away from that corner.


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Wow. Why have I not thought of this for my issues with the rat terrier charging the fence at people walking by? As long as it won't stop Gunther from barking at a real threat. Awesome!
06-05-2014 12:54 AM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Galathiel View Post
I'm regular folk too ... and I have and on occasion still do leash my dog in his yard. 1) for working on his leash skills .. an ongoing power struggle we're having at the moment, hard headed sucker and 2) because my dog goes out and about to training and different locales and I want him to remember that he can potty on leash ... some dogs won't. I had one that wouldn't (never leashed him at home) and it was a royal pain when we went on vacation!
Haven't had a puppy in a decade! But yeah next dog will get loose leash training in the yard!

The not going potty on a leash? I have no idea? Not something I ever noticed??

"Pet person" was being used as a pejorative by some. As was the term "Bubble dog." Inside jokes I guess. I like both terms myself! My standards are pretty high! My dogs don't have "issues" my guys will never be featured on Cesar 911!

Dogs barking all the time, running out the door, attacking dogs, biting people ,counter surfing, eating freaking couches!!

It's all alien to me??? I'm not a pro and my dogs don't do any of that crap! Hence for me 'pet person" I gots no problem with it!

So since I'm "not" a pro I'm either a "pet person" or a conceded condescending A hole! Pet person is a whole lot easier.

On Boxer forums I get a lot of grief! Those folks are pretty much clueless! When they have a dog with big dog issues!

Boxers are my first love my GSD was happenstance! But now I get them!
But Boxers different dogs different set of issues! Boxers are not in the top ten on the doggy IQ scale! They pretty much don't give a crap what you want! What they are doing is much more interesting!Pros say they can train 3 GSD's in the time it takes to train one Boxer! Nonetheless "I" raised a near perfect Boxer! But by and large..Boxer folks are kinda soft like there dogs!

So over there if you say..."pet person" it's more like..who isn't???

No insult intended !
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