|06-08-2014 05:27 PM|
|A girl and her dog||
Actually, Nonny isn't the problem child. He's very compliant, quick to learn, gentle and loving. He has those eyes and expression that just melt a girl. He's a sweetie; not out of control at all. I would trust him off leash before the Chi.
Lucky for us, there are (dreaded) dog parks that hardly anyone ever goes to. Outside of that, no off leash excursions until I have all confidence in them. Last time I let them run while I walked through the back of a park, George went into the woods, Nonny came right away when called. I had to go get the little a-hole out of the woods. My fault, but still annoying!
|06-08-2014 02:16 AM|
Yeah kinda what I was wondering? Rule #1 is none of my dogs are allowed off leash until they have solid recall! I only violated it once! With a rescue herder dog. I let all three of them lose in a field and my guys came new girl did not!!
I released my guys again and then recalled them, that time she followed them back! I got lucky, new dog never allowed off leash till recall is down solid. So I used a 20 foot line on her for awhile.
The place command should do it for you. Get it down solid, and when your ready to test it in the real world, tie a backup line to them!
When they are ready find a secure area, tennis court or something similar?
Wow GSD/Terrier mix?? Terrier anything can be a handful! You got work to do!
|06-08-2014 01:41 AM|
|A girl and her dog||wanted to add that I did have them both fairly reliable off-leash. Their recall was great at one point. I had to use treats, of course, as we were still in the beginning stages. I'd take them in the front and practice having them follow me, stay and let me walk away and wait then come when I came the command. They were really good for a little while. George ruined it by pushing the boundaries and going across the street to obsess over the dogs that live across the street. He HAD to go all CSI over every blade of grass over there. Made it too dangerous, so I quit.|
|06-08-2014 01:34 AM|
|A girl and her dog||
Yeah, George knows hand signals too. I wanted both b/c words can overlap or be misunderstood. Nonny is more of a verbal guy, he knows the signal for sit, down, and stay (mostly), but is primarily verbal. ... I gotta get a couple of mats.
I need to put some better pics up too. Yep, George is natural. He's got some Pom in him too, so he has bushy hair behind his ears and down his neck. His tail is long-haired as well. If you looked up long-hair Chi, that's pretty much his fur growth. I trim his butt/back of back legs so he doesn't poo on the fur. It will lay flat on the ground when he squats like a nice little personal poop carpet. Gross. So I cut it. That's the only trimming or cutting I do on him, lol!
Nonny is a short wire haired GSD/terrier mix. He's getting a beard. He's a teenager now, so I guess it's time. I have weird dogs But I love them. Except when George is a brat.
|06-08-2014 01:08 AM|
Sadly down to just the one day at the moment. This was my baby girl:
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But yes all my guys were trained with hand singles. My Boxer responded really well to them!
like you I also did the go to bed thing. It worked fine but if your out and about..."go to bed has no meaning!" I keyed on the mat with Rocky we had a small rug on the lawn, once with the on the lawn "command" I sent him off and found him standing on the carpet by the front door!
I really don't "need" it with him. His blanket anywhere and a stay works well but my next dogs, I will train that and Rocky can learn from them!
Wow George has a pretty wild hairdo! Is that a trim cut or natural ??
|06-08-2014 12:32 AM|
|A girl and her dog||
Oh gosh, your Gunther is George made over. Or the other way around. He's not aggressive per say, just dominant and an A-hole. I call them A$$hats all the time. That's their 'pet' name. George has only been around one large dog, a yellow lab that's about 6-8yrs old and sweet as can be. If he were around a more aggressive large dog, it would be lights out. He may not understand that he's a little guy and will be an hors d'oeurve.
I like the place command. I was actually eyeing some crate liners I could use to put next to me so I could give him a marker for where he should be when someone walks in the door. Or something like that. And then, lookie here! Someone suggested something very similar, actually better and more clear than I had in mind. For now, when in doubt, they both go in the living room kennel. A door mat is much cheaper than a kennel pad, lol! I'll go with a mat.
It is cool how they can learn stuff that we don't think of as a command. George has done that too and I can't think of a good example of it other than when I say "let's go to bed, bed time." And 'go lay down' apparently means the same as 'kennel.' I'm sure there are silent cues that he perceives as a command all the time.
Do you have your pup trained in hand cues as well as verbal?
|06-07-2014 08:08 PM|
The chi is not on my list however! I kinda consider them to be the little dog equavilent off a dog aggressive Dojo Argentinian!!! I'm out!
Just saw a Giant schnauzer today! Not a dog on my list but they are very handsome!
My first guy was a Bull/APBT/Lab mix, got him as a puppy and he rolled out of the womb, dog aggressive??? I had him evaluated by a pro cause this was new to me???
Guy said he was not an Aggressive Dominate male! He was a Dominate male aka A Hole!!! OK I can deal no dog parks ignore other dogs! He loved people, so I taught him to be dog safe!
It worked, saved the life of the neighbours out of control little POC dogs one day! My guys were on our lawn! I was cursing at my Porsche 951!!! I was under the car, I hear yap yap yap?? I look up and stare in horror!! The little dog was on our lawn and Barking straight in Gunther's face!! I saw Gunther and Strudell staring down at the dog they never moved just held station and looked at me! Like WTH is this dad??
I moved swiftly chased the dog back to his yard came back and said ..good dogs!
So APBT/Pitts/Bullies teach them ignore other dogs and you have pretty much dealt with there only issue! In the hands of responsible guardians!!
|06-07-2014 07:49 PM|
My GSD showed me that this was actually a command!! He was in front off leash, we were almost home, two or three houses away and I say "on the lawn" I stop to tie my shoe and watched in amazement as he"wobbled" down the street up our driveway and onto the lawn!!
It's actually a "place" command! That's what you need to teach! Never formally done it myself
My understanding is you say "place" and that is where the dog is suppose to stay! There might be more in the puppy section?? Only caution is the dog has to be reliable off leash!!! You can't tell them place in the real world and have them be safe if they will run into the street!!
Top of my head...I would use a door mat tell them place. Have them stay on it for 5 minuets or so work up to a half an hour move it around the house, for awhile put it in the backyard. Same deal go in the house and just have them stay there.
Then you can put the mat in the driveway or "on the lawn" and that's where they stay! But that is "assuming" they are reliable off leash!!!
|06-07-2014 06:36 PM|
|A girl and her dog||
I probably will never seek to own another Chi in my life. I definitely prefer the larger breeds. GSD's in particular. I've found good things about some other unexpected breeds as well. I like the looks of the Giant Schnauzer, APBT (maybe, depends on where it comes from), Boxers, Labs.... Lots to choose from. Really like the Giant Schnauzer and GSD's.
|06-07-2014 06:30 PM|
|A girl and her dog||
Getting out - yep, even more important that they don't just jump out when I open the door. The Chi did jump out at the school once while dropping off the little one.
I absolutely see now where 'choose your battles' plays in. If I don't give them trivial orders, there won't be trivial arguments. That's been a humbling realization. I need to not give 'orders' unless its necessary. They really are both good dogs and well behaved. Neither is hyper or destructive to the house or furniture, both adequately potty trained, they're not terrible barkers, even for a Chi.
I like tethering! I've done it and it does work. As others said, it did train them to follow me around the house. I use tethering for potty training mostly. I have used it before for keeping them from rushing the door when someone comes home. Right now, I'm using treats for that. I like that better b/c they have to think it through and decide that the treat is better than going crazy at the door and jumping on someone. I think I'm the only one they don't jump up on when entering the house.
Thanks for linking all of that to me! Sometimes it's hard to week through for just the right thing. Lucky me that someone else knows/remembers a good thread.
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