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06-07-2014 08:15 AM
huntergreen maybe he just needs time to loosen up these days. hoping he continues to improve.
06-07-2014 07:52 AM
llombardo You notice all this stuff in his first walk and after he sleeps all night, how is he when you come back from work and he has slept most of the time? He gains pep throughout the day or when he is out of the house?
06-07-2014 07:38 AM

This morning when I woke him up to go out there was no fluidy sound. His eye mucous was about 50%...not a huge green glob. Cleaned out and it was grayish.

On walk he was super slow though
06-06-2014 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
When the ortho diagnosed Jax with a groin tear, he said that it was a very UNDER diagnosed injury.

When the vet diagnosed Oz, he and many on this board couldn't believe we didn't see the signs - but we didn't. I just laid my cc on the table and said, do what you gotta do! A sick animal, it kills you emotionally. They handed me an estimate, I roared, "do you think I bleeping care what it costs, fix my dog". We just went through a set-back with Oz, new X-Rays, meds, blood-work-up, we're at $1,700 and we're personally arguing a new MRI. Dh is finding it a tough pill to swallow on a 10 year old dog... I do too.
Vets in Canada are significantly more expensive than the states, hoping Gator either gets better, or you get a definitive answer, because vets, they have no problem spending someone's money! Especially if they are having an issue pin-pointing the problem.
06-06-2014 10:41 PM
gsdsar If you vet is thinking Iliopsoas, then I would look for a rehab place. Laser therapy, estim, massage and acupuncture can be very helpful. An Iliopsoas is not difficult to diagnose if you know what you are looking for. I would see if you could find so done who knew how to diagnose.

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06-06-2014 10:40 PM
Jax08 When the ortho diagnosed Jax with a groin tear, he said that it was a very UNDER diagnosed injury.
06-06-2014 10:35 PM
Anubis_Star I've seen dogs euthanized for muscle tears in the groin because doctors were unable to find the source of the pain/lack of limb bearing.

Low end normal on thyroid is still normal range so without other clinical signs not concerning.

I didn't see HW test on there but can look again.

Eos would likely be allergies or parasites. So may just be this year is worse than past years

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06-06-2014 08:18 PM
Jax08 Groin pulls take a very long time to heal. If that is the case, you need to have him on strict rest.
06-06-2014 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anubis_Star View Post
Muscle atrophy as is often seen in geriatric, arthritic patients can and often do cause elevated CK. Sent from Free App
That along with pit bull attack. The vet and I discussed last night, that the pain in the bladder/prostate area may be related to muscle tear

The Iliopsoas/psoas...affect prostate, bladder, hind end weakness.

I brought this up to her and she said quite possible - referred to it as groin pull.
06-06-2014 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anubis_Star View Post
Muscle atrophy as is often seen in geriatric, arthritic patients can and often do cause elevated CK. A stressed patient fighting restraint for blood draw can cause elevated CK. My geriatric cat with severe joint disease and rear end muscle wasting has elevated CK and has had it for years. your other differentials combined with diagnostics aren't really supported which is why it does not seem like a significant finding.

Brain damage with lack of neurological signs? Seems unlikely. Heart damage could be more likely but lack of murmur lowers that differential.
Chest xrays, as I've already recommended, would be the indicator on that one.

Has gator been tested for HW?

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The CK levels were the same as before. Vet then, plus my holistic vet who reviewed both felt they were no concern.

This Vet felt same.

Don't know if you saw the post with all values, included 4D snap. Negative on all.
His Thyroid is low end of normal

Originally Posted by Anubis_Star View Post
HW could fit the clinical signs. Heart damage so increased CK. Eos are triggered by parasites as well so can cause an elevated eos count.

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Had a fecal with a giardia antigen test. Page has no comments so not sure.

The High Eos may be related to parasites. We have done a parasite cleanse 2x. So may be why nothing showed, or just the general waste of money as no shedding of cysts/eggs (or other - round, whip, tape)...He did snack on some cat poop while snow on ground, and had fleas in Nov.
So may be why...or could be the pesticides on lawns that are causing the fluid/nasal sound and eye mucous.

Originally Posted by huntergreen View Post
how is gator today?????
Thanks for asking. Yesterday day he was very lethargic. May have been picking up on my stress waiting for results.

By the eve, he was poking me as I was dishing out his food, he almost ran the 4 min. mile on night walk...much cooler yesterday, but after, he was in good spirits, frisky.

This morning again, boogied on walk before work...mod nasal sound, but not as fluidy, still a blob of mucous right eye...doesn't bother him. - not rubbing face or pawing no swelling...
He was super frisky when I got in, quit warm out but he didn't burn out or slow down on walk even going home...still short walk re: heat.

Come to think of things, I did a parasite cleanse 2x. I think 4 weeks apart. Maybe this nasal issue is a result of the body detoxing the die-off.

Really should put him on Milk thistle. Not going to do anything until he has his next 2-3 Specific Gravity tests done.
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