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05-27-2014 03:08 PM
Chip18 Something like this is what folks are referring to:
I just got a rescued dog – what do I do? | stickydogblog

The cat thing:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...herd-cats.html

5 dogs 14 years and up to 16 cats all living in harmony. In all that time "never" a single cat dog incident! The "Dog Chases the Cat...Never!" Second incident a correction should have been made swift and certain! A service dog that chases fast furry animals is not of much use..but I'm "not" an expert.

Useful links in post eight here:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...allenging.html

Got no input on the baby thing, I bow to others.
05-27-2014 01:38 PM
Sunflowers Problem is, people think dog licking the baby means dog loves the baby


When I first wanted a GSD I went to rescues.
None, I mean none, would let me have an adult dog. They directed me toward a puppy who would grow up with my 1-year-old nephew, who was at my house all day at that time.
05-27-2014 11:53 AM
DaniFani Stop letting an adult GSD that you barely know get close to your BABY, let alone close enough to lick the baby! Glad you got a trainer, make sure they aren't going to just focus on redirecting and treating. You need some punishment along with the reinforcement. Need balanced training, I also agree with MDD, you need to shut everything down, stop flooding the dog, and stop setting it up for failure. Build a bond, teach boundaries, etc....

As Bailiff said...seems like prey drive that is misplaced due to never having manners/obedience. Could be "fixable"...would I keep this dog around my baby? Not in a million years, baby is worth way more to me than that nonsense, especially when you don't seem to know the proper boundaries of children (babies) and dogs. I'd rather have a dog grow up from puppyhood with kids so they are never novelty (dogs or kids).

Glad you got the trainer, until then keep the dog away from the baby. Everyone seems obsessed with babies and dogs being best friends, taking cute pictures, and having cute stories. Dogs should respect a bubble around babies (imo), as the kids get older they are taught respect, boundaries, etc...and can start to "play" more with the dogs. In that first year or two? LOTS of boundaries.
05-27-2014 11:50 AM
Sunflowers Yep, missed it.
All righty then.
05-27-2014 11:49 AM
my boy diesel you may have missed the last post by the op that says
She wasn't trying to hurt my daughter, she didn't know what to do. After I put her on a down stay so I could deal with the baby she settled right down and calmed that fear for me.
i believe she is going to keep and try to work with the dog
so at the very least keep the dog leashed and put it on a shut down so it learns who is the leader in the house

i say this because the dog sounds completely overwhelmed and overstimulated
you have got to ease the transition and not fling everything at it at once
running cats crying babies walks where it is expected to handle the crying baby and traffic and pedestrians and all manner of things running around

the dog needs to defuse and settle in
you do not want it defusing by eating a cat or attacking your kid
05-27-2014 11:44 AM
Sunflowers
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
leash that dog and keep her leashed while she settles in
she should never have had free reign of the house so soon for starters
and quite honestly you are throwing far too many things at this dog all at once
have you heard of a two week shut down period
if not please look it up
where you have cats and kids it is critical you do this
This, if a toddler were not part of the picture.
I would not keep this dog.

And for heaven's sake, the dog has no business licking the baby.
05-27-2014 11:31 AM
my boy diesel leash that dog and keep her leashed while she settles in
she should never have had free reign of the house so soon for starters
and quite honestly you are throwing far too many things at this dog all at once
have you heard of a two week shut down period
if not please look it up
where you have cats and kids it is critical you do this
05-27-2014 10:32 AM
alleycat
Sissy update

Thank you all for taking the time to respond. I think after bringing her home, all of us were over tired, and Sissy was over stimulated.

I rescued Sissy because I understood WHY she acted out against old owner's dog; she was crated overnight, crated 8-12 hours daily while owner was at work, and then instead of activity, the owner wanted to sit and relax with the lap dogs. To a young high energy GSD, the other dog was taking attention and causing the issue, no matter how we see it. I've broken the prey drive in other dogs, I know it can be broken.

Today, after a good rest for Sissy (not me, turns out baby daughter is teething again) we went for a walk to burn energy and when the baby started fussing again Sissy whined and licked her with my careful supervision. I called a trainer, I already have experience with obedience training and my gut was right, her aggression was most likely because of her situation, and cat aggression is fairly easy to deal with because she has never been taught to leave them alone. She has never been around kids, so she simply needs to be taught how to deal with them. She wasn't trying to hurt my daughter, she didn't know what to do. After I put her on a down stay so I could deal with the baby she settled right down and calmed that fear for me.

As for cats, I now know how to start adjusting her to them, and I have a direction to start. She is an excellent girl on everything else, so I know it is a learned response from lack of training and reinforcement. If it was personality, she wouldn't be good everywhere else.

Sissy just needs a bit of my energy, constancy, attention and dominant leadership, to not get away with the bad behavior. Her previous owner somewhat catered to Sissy by separating the dogs and enforcing that she had a valid reason to attack the other dog by allowing her to attack when together. She never corrected the attacking behavior, and she didn't redirect it.

So, thank you all, I'm going to keep everyone updated at her progress, I think there is hope for her, she is a smart girl.
05-27-2014 09:39 AM
Gretchen I feel you set yourself up for failure. You got a dog that you knew had a high prey drive, yet you are upset about the dog chasing cats.

Has the dog ever been around infants/toddlers? It not, it probably does not know what to do with you child, children are unpredictable and have movements the dog is not familiar with.

As for a service dog, if you need a service dog you should get one already trained to your needs, I know they may be expensive, but is the time, energy, money and training that would need to be put into this dog worth it? This dog may never have the temperament for a service dog, at least if you get one from a professional organization it should be well conditioned to all types of situations.

Before we bought our dog as a pup from a breeder, we looked into two well known GSD rescue organizations to adopt an adult. The descriptions of about 90% of the dogs available for adoption said they had high prey drive.
We have a few cats and I did not want to put them in danger or have a crazy house, so we got the pup that grew up with the cats and they get along fine.
05-27-2014 08:24 AM
Baillif Prey aggression is one of the easiest types of aggression to punish and see a quick turn around in behavior. While I would always manage a dog around young children regardless of how bomb proof their temperaments seem to be, what your dog is displaying is not necessarily something id consider a deal breaker. Youd need to find a good balanced trainer to help you, and id suspect an e colllar purchase would be in your future but it isnt a super big deal.

As for the service dog thing. Yeah probably not gonna happen.
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