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08-25-2014 11:44 AM
wyoung2153 Nancy, I am so sorry for your loss.. I know it was expected, so to speak, but it doesn't make it easier. Sending lots of love and prayers your way.
08-25-2014 10:46 AM
DutchKarin Oh Nancy, my sympathies are with you. I wish you peach on your journey with grief. Thoughts are with you.
08-24-2014 06:38 AM
jocoyn We have started with the VSARDA directional training; I have heard quite a few people say it is the best approach.

I have been kind of backed off for awhile. My mother passed away on Monday and it has been a lot leading up to that. This was long in coming; she had a stroke n 2007 and has lived with us since but the past three months had been very much downhill. I know it is a blessing but it is still hard. Both of my parents have died in our house. I am ok with that but you can't shake the memories of them that are associated with the house. Not that i want too.

Most of my time away from her has gone into my job or the garden lately. Will be getting back full force in the fall.
08-20-2014 04:22 PM
wyoung2153 I have only browsed but this site looks really really cool Thank you for sharing!

It makes sense now that I think about it. I remember hearing something about coyotes baiting animals out to attack them in a group. We lived ina neighborhood with many when I was younger.

We encounter black bears here too just not quite as often. They are here and we have warning signs everywhere but in the 3 years I have been here, I have only seen a handful and they are usually out of the city in the wooded areas more than the main parts of town where we get a lot of the warnings.
08-20-2014 02:56 PM
DutchKarin Living in bear habitat I just find them much more interested in staying away. Smart dogs know to keep a healthy distance but unfortunately dogs find it great sport to tree the bears. Over the years I have only heard one or two instances were a dog was injured by a bear and in these cases, the dog was harassing the bear. Now these are black bears mind you and the ones I'm around are keen to break into houses and eat garbage rather than hunt so to speak.

Coyotes are much more devious and there are many more stories of the coyote baiting dogs away with fake play bows and such and then when they have the dog isolated, multiple coyotes come out to attack. People say they don't pack... maybe not like wolves but they do travel together at times and they will attack together despite what people say. I think Tygo might be much more inclined to give chase on a coyote. I'm always amazed how dogs just KNOW they are different. Tygo has seen them from the house and has gone ballistic. My old aussies did too.. they just know, even with no sight and minimal scent if any that they are not dogs.

So bring on the bears, I'm okay with that.

Whitney, here is an article for training direction that I might use. Cool site nonetheless..
Articles on Training SAR K9s - Virginia Search and Rescue Dog Association
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08-20-2014 10:58 AM
wyoung2153 Thank for the update Karin That is pretty awesome to read.. all your successes with Tygo!! Good thing about the bears! I would have been so worried after that.. but maybe you guys deal with it more out there.. why would you be more worried about coyotes? Just more daring than the bears?

Mind sharing how you guys train directionals and send outs? My team doesn't do that but I have always wondered how. Just the other day when I was working with TItan in the yard. I was walking him to the other side of the yard to prep for a low distraction recall and maybe some downs on some of them.. but I was like... this would be so much easier if I could just tell him to go somewhere instead of walking him and placing him in a down/sit-stay.... seems like it would be a similar training technique.
08-20-2014 10:43 AM
DutchKarin Thought I would report in.

I have added some short foundational work with Tygo to reinforce his alerts and his completing the refind of the subject. This is an example of not thinking through the whole effort. Because it was short distance, Tygo whipped around to come back and do his jump alert at about 75 yards. I stupidly did this exercise in a meadow. Well he was coming back at a 1000 mph with no obstacles to slow him down he got faster and faster. I felt that I was in one of those video clips of the guy in the bite suit about to be taken down. My eyes must have gotten really big. My sponsor (trainer) said in a low voice, "This is not good" and I eventually yelled an expletive and I am sure I flinched. Tygo picked up my apprehension and blew off the alert. So I really messed that up. Sort distance work will now be done where there are lots of obstacles so he cannot pick up that speed, I will get a vest to protect me a bit, and I will train my self to say "good dog" when I really mean "expletive". Another great example of how much I have to learn.

A training success... yesterday I was out walking in the woods up a steep slope. Tygo was 50 yards ahead of me and getting really agitated by a scent (we were not SAR training). I yelled "wait" and he did! Body stiff, piloerection all down his back (as a opposed to just at his shoulder) and tail up and rapidly shaking. He held the wait command, I got there and 30 yards away was momma bear with her two cubs. Most the dogs around here chase and tree bears including my neighbor's 25 lb terrier. I was so happy he held the wait so solidly. Fingers crossed on coyote which worries me way more than bears.

We also did a SAR training this weekend and got a lot of the obedience out of the way as well as navigation skills, which I love. BUT, I could see after an hour of obedience work, Tygo's brain going to mush. At least I know the limits now. Relatively speaking he did great and am happy with it all. He is 15 months old and getting more and more trainable, focused and solid. We have some work to do on long downs with distraction. There were 13 dogs doing obedience in a busy campground so this was at the top end of distraction for us.

So we keep at it. I have way more to learn than Tygo that is for sure.

One note of interest. The mission ready teams got called out to one of our main training areas. I don't think the dog teams found the guy who had hung himself, but strange that it was in one of our areas that we used almost once a month.

Next thing is to train directionals and send outs. We are weak in that area.

08-12-2014 07:34 PM
gsdsar Things going well here.

Nix has been started on HR, and is getting quite proficient. Very happy with his progress. He still has no idea what "go find" means, but the second he gets into scent he is all over the hunt. Very happy with his progress.

I will be starting increasingly difficult hides with him soon, right now they are pretty out in the open, the "hardest" was in between fence slats. But he kept working at found it. I am liking his work ethic! His ball drive is not great, so the rewarding can be difficult, but he is a dog that likes to hunt for the sake if hunting. Gonna have to see if I can get it to translate when the "going gets tough". We shall see.

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08-12-2014 07:31 PM
jocoyn Nothing really new or exciting here....I am in one of those times when.....priorities etc. sometimes it is a challenge and I think anyone in SAR has gone through that at some time or another.
08-12-2014 11:45 AM
wyoung2153 Well I do hope that everyone's month is going well! I actually DO have an update You guys know I have been out of training for a few months.. but took Titan to SAR training this past Saturday. Started out as just me wanted to visit the team and catch up and help out where I could. Someone asked if Titan was coming so I decided he could come, if for nothing other than socializing and OB. We did off leash OB with SO many people around, there was apparently an auction across the street where we were based.. so people were coming and going, left and right. Titan did fantastic. At the end, one of our trainers asked if I wanted to just do a fun scenario with Titan. Small search just for him to have fun. We did. He did everything awesome!!! Didn't forget a thing and was perfect. I loved seeing him work again, even if it was just for fun

How's everything going??
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