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07-14-2014 09:22 AM
barnyard I think fungal infections are really under diagnosed.
07-11-2014 04:33 PM
jwmedic Good luck on Monday. I hope you get some answers.
07-10-2014 07:53 PM
jwmedic
Fungal Infection

Also, both the specialist vet clinics initially claimed that my dog's infection was not fungal. Conidiobolus is quite rare and very few vets are familiar with it. Texas A&M said it definitely wasn't fungal and were sure it was cancer. When the biopsy report came back they said it was Pythium, which is a fungal infection (called swamp cancer). Pythium does not typically affect the nose and mouth in dogs, however Conidiobolus (and I believe Basidiobolus) often affect the nose.


Sorry...I didn't see where my previous edit showed up so posted again.
07-10-2014 07:39 PM
Mwelsh03
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I have attached a picture of a GSD that had a conidiobolus infection similar to what my dog had. This picture was of a GSD treated by Dr. Grooters at LSU.

Also, I was told by 2 specialty vets initially that my GSD didn't have a fungal infection. Conidiobolus is relatively rare and very few vets know how to recognize it. Does Griffey by any chance have any lesions inside his mouth...possibly on his hard palate?
I haven't noticed any lesions in his mouth. His nose does look like the one in the picture.

We have an appointment with a new specialty vet on Monday. I'll certainly bring this up when I see her. Thanks

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07-10-2014 07:23 PM
jwmedic
GSD with Nasal Conidiobolus Fungal Infection

I have attached a picture of a GSD that had a conidiobolus infection similar to what my dog had. This picture was of a GSD treated by Dr. Grooters at LSU.

Also, I was told by 2 specialty vets initially that my GSD didn't have a fungal infection. Conidiobolus is relatively rare and very few vets know how to recognize it. Does Griffey by any chance have any lesions inside his mouth...possibly on his hard palate?
07-05-2014 05:58 PM
LisaT
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Personally, having had a GSD with a nose issue, I would start the dog on itraconazole and doxycycline, and go from there.

The itraconzole because of the GSD's susceptibility to fungal issues, and because of the number of antibiotics he has been on. The doxy because it is an anti-inflammatory, and has some good anti-cancer properties.
Doxy can also treat other things that other abx can't...

I havne't seen any drug therapies tried, and, if this is my dog, I would start trying some. Biopsies and cultures and can still miss a number of things.

I'm not sure that the IgA deficiency ever made sense to me - you would see other signs before you saw a bump on the nose, I think.
07-05-2014 05:55 PM
Mwelsh03 Also forgot to mention that we called the breeder to ask if any of his litter/mom/dad have experienced of these issues. Of course she told me no (not sure if I believe her).
07-05-2014 05:49 PM
Mwelsh03 Well.... just thought I would give an updated on where Griffey is at right now in the diagnosis phase.

Ill sort by events that have occurred in chronological order for anyone that hasn't read the entire thread. Keep in mind, he is 13 months old. I know it doesn't matter the age sometimes, but most things I have read occur in older dogs.

April - A lump was noticed on top of his snout. Difficulty breathing at night, inflammation, and a runny nose were persistent. He was also in noticeable pain when the nose was pressed on. Vet prescribed antibiotics and pain killers in hope that it was a simple bacterial infection.

May - Symptoms persisted. Griffey was referred to a specialist (who was filling in for the "normal" specialist. We have only talked to the doctor that performed the tests once). A CT scan was performed as well as a rhinoscopy. Bone destruction was seen in the CT scan along with inflammation through the scope. A biopsy was taken and reviewed by the regular specialist at the hospital we took him to. She confirmed no cancer and no fungal infections (what a relief to me at the time). She told us she thought it could be a possible IGA deficiency and asked us to get a blood test.

June - blood test done and returned a week later. Blood tested negative for IGA deficiency. We also tested for mascular myositis which also came back negative (he was in pain when opening his mouth which is why the test was performed). Griffey was given rimadyl and some more antibiotics for the time being in order to control the inflammation.

July - everyone around us was convinced his issues were due to something he was allergic to. We gave him some benadyrl for a couple days straight which did not help.

So that's where we stand. This vet and specialist are extremely disappointing as they take a week to get back to us on every single issue. There appears to be no sense of urgency. Due to this, we are going to a more experienced vet in hopes that he can point us in a better direction. We hope to be recommended to a better specialist as well since the one we had been talking to only works Mondays and Tuesdays and is extremely difficult to get a hold of. I am concerned about the possibility that "maybe" the fill in doctor that performed the rhinoscopy messed up and it has caused a false negative result. Is this possible? The bump on his nose is getting bigger every week. I have attached a picture to show what it looks like as of two hours ago.

If anyone has any similar symptoms or can help in any way please do. I am open to discussing all possible causes.



Thanks
07-03-2014 12:52 AM
jwmedic My GSD had very similar symptoms 6 months ago. I took him to several specialist vets and had numerous imaging tests, cultures and biopsies. He couldn't breathe through his nose and had a huge ulcerative lesion on his hard palate. I almost put him down as he seemed miserable (lost weight, lethargic, his eye started bulging). I spent every day researching his illness and am so glad I did. He was eventually diagnosed with a fungal infection; Texas A&M said it was Pythium, but I knew it wasn't. It was Conidiobolus (Conidiobolomycosis) which is rare. He was diagnosed and treated by Dr. Grooters at LSU (through my vet in Houston). After a few weeks of being on Sporonox (Itraconazole) his condition improved dramatically. He is continuing to take the Itraconazole for a year as this nasty fungal infection often returns when treatment is D/C'd. I hope this helps. If anyone has a dog with similar symptoms, please feel free to email me at jwmedic1@aol.com. I am so fortunate to have found a cure for my baby and I want to make sure other's have this information.
05-31-2014 05:11 PM
RebelGSD I am not sure that the health problems you pup had are totally out of the ordinary. Pano is common in GSDs, infections can happen. After the first one the immune system is compromised and other infections develop easier. As he matures and his immune system develops, he can improve. There was Bubbles in Baltimore, the dog that had the giant growth on the nose (muzzle). It was bone branched like a christmas tree. That should be visible in the x-ray.
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