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04-04-2017 03:48 PM
Dracovich I definitely get the "Does he bite?" question a lot more with my GSD than I do with my Pyr or when I took out my parents Aussie and Lab mix.

I suppose it never really effected me, though, I don't need people to trust my dog. It's more annoying when people think he is 'cool and looks like a wolf' therefor they want to touch him.
04-04-2017 10:54 AM
Dalko43 It is not easy to have an objective discussion on dog bites by breed because a lot of people come into this conversation with pre-formed opinions. Everyone has their "it" breed that they are wary of or like to point fingers at. In my area, GSD's definitely qualify as an "it" breed. It took me forever to find an apartment that would let me in with a GSD. When I walk down the street, it's not unusual for people to part like the Red Sea or go to the other side. My dog isn't the type that can be pet by a random stranger (at least not without an introduction) but he has never gone out of his way to confront someone who was simply walking by; a lot of people assume he is dangerous just based on looks and breed reputation alone. Whereas on any given day I take a walk, I'll see people approaching and showering another person's Pitbull or Rottweiler with pets and praise.....Go figure.

The other inherent problem with discussing bites by breed is figuring out the bites per capita. Certain studies have documented total # of bites by different groups and breeds, but you really need to know how those incident #'s stand in relation to the breed/group's total population to get the full picture. To my knowledge, no one has done a study like that, likely because it is extremely difficult to get a solid # for any given breed owned in this country. You can point out how breed X has 200 more bites than another breed, but unless you know the overall number of breed x dogs relative to the other breed, that bite number is close to meaningless. With a popular breed, like the GSD, you would expect there to be a certain number of incidents every year based on the laws of probability. And based on the breed's historical and contemporary use in personal protection, sports, and government service, it is certainly more likely to be aggressive with a human (especially if poorly trained) relative to most other breeds. That's not a knock on the breed. A dog is a product of its genetics and upbringing. That's why a hound hunts, a husky pulls, and a GSD protects.

IMHO, people should be more focused on a breed's genetic/breeding background rather than bite #'s when dealing with different types of dogs. I have no problem going up to and petting or even handling another person's Redbone hound because of how that breed was been raised and bred over successive generations. Whereas I'd be very careful about how I approached a GSD (or I might avoid approaching it all together) because of that breed's heritage and genetic pedigree. Obviously, there are individual exceptions, but I think it holds truth in the general sense.
04-04-2017 07:33 AM
car2ner
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Originally Posted by Lanky View Post
In a world where judging people is highly frowned upon I think the same should be thought about animals too. I can't stand when people judge my dog based on his breed or appearance.
Judging is a survival mechanism. Everyone does it in all situations all day long. The important thing is for folks to change their perception as they get more information.
I tend to have the opposite problem, with people making wrong assumptions. My she-pup is a smaller female and she looks cute. People want to approach her but she doesn't like strangers coming too close too quickly. She lets them know with a quick bark, No Thank You. If folks didn't jump to the conclusion that she looks like she wants to be pat, life would be easier. My big boy, on the other hand, looks like a dog that needs to be approached cautiously. He is the one who is more accepting of attention.

 I like going for long walks. When my dogs come with me, it is that judging of a GSD as a serious dog that adds a layer of safety to my walk. If I ever need some documentation that my dogs are not more dangerous than the normal dog, I have my boy's BH and CGC. My she-pup has yet to be tested on those. Still working on her manners.
It is fairly common to see GSDs around here. There are 4 on our block.
04-04-2017 02:57 AM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by fredh View Post
Cause Police Depts use GSDs to Track and apprehend Fleeing Criminals. And even fleeing Criminals are entitled to medical attention.
Although ... I'm not entirely sure how accurate this is ... I like it.
04-04-2017 02:22 AM
Lanky In a world where judging people is highly frowned upon I think the same should be thought about animals too. I can't stand when people judge my dog based on his breed or appearance.
09-12-2014 03:34 PM
briantw
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Originally Posted by WateryTart View Post
It might be that I just didn't notice, but I never saw GSDs around when I lived there. It could also be that people in Uptown Charlotte had a lot of labs, boxers, and mastiff type dogs - I do remember seeing tons of those, and I rarely left Uptown.
I'm in South End and I see them pretty frequently. There's at least on other one in my apartment building and, living right on the light rail path, I see people walking them by all the time.

Uptown would probably be trickier to slip them past an apartment complex ban because you have to walk by the front desk in most buildings to get to the elevators. Most of the places in South End have multiple entrances and exits to the point where you can literally never even bring your dog by the building's office, which is probably why so many people own restricted breeds in my building and all the others in the area.

You are right, though, that Boxers are crazy popular in Charlotte. I own a Boxer too, in fact. There are five or six others that I know of in the building I live in as well. Labs seem to be getting less popular (although lab mixes are still everywhere), but there are a ton of Goldens in the area.
08-20-2014 05:33 PM
WateryTart
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It might just be a product of where you live. I live in an area of Charlotte that is very dog friendly. When I take Sandor out, I mostly get compliments on how he looks, and when I take him to places like bars and restaurants in the neighborhood that allow dogs, everyone always wants to pet him and only a very small percentage of people (less than five percent, probably more like one or two) seem intimidated by his presence.

German Shepherds are fairly popular here despite being banned at all of the apartment complexes in the area that I know of (including mine, which is why on my lease agreement I'm the proud owner of a somewhat large Belgian Malinois). Then again, if people actually listened to those stupid breed restrictions in the first place half the dogs in our building would be evicted, as most of them are pit bull or GSD mixes adopted from shelters, and there is also another pure GSD, a Doberman, and at least one Rottweiler in the building too.
It might be that I just didn't notice, but I never saw GSDs around when I lived there. It could also be that people in Uptown Charlotte had a lot of labs, boxers, and mastiff type dogs - I do remember seeing tons of those, and I rarely left Uptown.
08-20-2014 04:45 PM
Neko When kids see Zeus, they yell POLICE dog or K9 and run over to pet him...
08-20-2014 04:41 PM
briantw It might just be a product of where you live. I live in an area of Charlotte that is very dog friendly. When I take Sandor out, I mostly get compliments on how he looks, and when I take him to places like bars and restaurants in the neighborhood that allow dogs, everyone always wants to pet him and only a very small percentage of people (less than five percent, probably more like one or two) seem intimidated by his presence.

German Shepherds are fairly popular here despite being banned at all of the apartment complexes in the area that I know of (including mine, which is why on my lease agreement I'm the proud owner of a somewhat large Belgian Malinois). Then again, if people actually listened to those stupid breed restrictions in the first place half the dogs in our building would be evicted, as most of them are pit bull or GSD mixes adopted from shelters, and there is also another pure GSD, a Doberman, and at least one Rottweiler in the building too.

Sandor is kind of a wuss when I take him places (he whines a bit from time to time), but he likes people and will go up and sniff them when they walk by and wag his tail when they pet him. I like taking him to social places where there aren't a lot of dogs (he's hit or miss with them, although very good with puppies), as he tends to be very calm and chill despite the fact that he's all energy at home. He's kind of the opposite of my Boxer, who is lazy at home and a social butterfly (must meet everyone in the room immediately) when I take him places.
08-10-2014 06:28 PM
Natural Beauty Farm
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Originally Posted by huntergreen View Post
if you talk to ER Docs, they will tell you, the most common dog bites are from gsd.
Don't know where you found that info. I'd say it depends where you are, in Atlanta I saw more collie bites in the 80's and bully's in 90's

In Virginia 99% of dog bites that come through my ER are lab's

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV, I volunteer behind the scenes and do dog rescue, so when a dog bites I get called.
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