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05-30-2014 09:13 AM
misslesleedavis1
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Mistake or not, if it's a crime and people get punished for it, then ALL people get the same punishment. In this case , the department concluded he was reckless. His own people concluded this, if doesn't matter what we know or don't know, they do know and that is why there is an investigation. From what I read its a felony, this is not the first time it's happened in Arizona and no charges filed, very unacceptable. Someone needs to be held accountable for these things, if it was me I sure would be.
Agreed equal punishment for everyone regardless who you are

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05-30-2014 01:57 AM
llombardo Mistake or not, if it's a crime and people get punished for it, then ALL people get the same punishment. In this case , the department concluded he was reckless. His own people concluded this, if doesn't matter what we know or don't know, they do know and that is why there is an investigation. From what I read its a felony, this is not the first time it's happened in Arizona and no charges filed, very unacceptable. Someone needs to be held accountable for these things, if it was me I sure would be.
05-29-2014 11:59 PM
sheplvr It's truly a horrible situation. I feel bad for the K9, the officer and his family. However, in Phoenix it is a crime. Children, and animals, and the elderly have been taken out of cars that can be over 120 degrees in just a very few minutes. The ones that live, have usually been taken into custody, after medical treatment. It is too hot here to leave anyone in a car. Very sad situation.

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05-29-2014 10:57 PM
selzer When I train, everyone else brings water, and some people have crate fans. I just make sure the windows are down enough so that if some yayhoo shuts the back, the car will not turn into an oven. They can go for an hour or two without water. And I crank the AC on the way too and from. They are fine.

These dogs have survived the extreme weather in Iraq, they can take NE Ohio. But being sealed up in a car will kill them here -- not after the sun goes down, though. Not unless I go to sleep and wake up the next morning after the sun is boiling down on them.

If the windows are open, back up, then the dog is probably ok. Even 4th of July at a show.
05-29-2014 10:36 PM
onyx'girl It never ends...and I believe it is worthy of charges every.single.time.
I worry about the dogs at training but they do have water and usually crate fans running on them. Still I check my dog constantly and let him have breaks from his crate.
Here is another recent sad, sad situation: Six dogs left in car die - 13WHAM ABC Rochester NY - Top Stories
05-29-2014 10:34 PM
Liesje Nobody can understand it, everyone says they would never do it...until they do. Obviously the parents who have done it did not plan on it. Bottom line is, people make mistakes, sometimes the most horrific and grave mistakes, but with no ill intent it's just that....a fatal mistake. Campaigning for jail time won't prevent it from happening to another dog or another child (since it doesn't happen any less frequently), there has to be a better approach.
05-29-2014 10:22 PM
selzer If I left my dog to die in my car, I would bury it and no one would know about it, except me. But if the dog was still alive, and I rushed it to the vet, and they called the cops. The cops would charge me with either neglecting an animal or animal cruelty.

I would probably have to go to court and pay a fine. Maybe I would have to do some sort of community service. I highly doubt I would see any actual jail time. I don't know if I would even be booked. I think it is a misdemeaner here, and I read in the paper that they aren't even transporting misdemeaners, they are just writing out a ticket where you have to call for your court date.

There are way too many people trafficking in drugs, and charging into people's homes (to rob or steal for money for drugs), and making drugs or growing drugs around here, for them to put everyone who fails their dog in a major way into jail.

I just can't picture the conversation in the exercise yard: "Yeah, what are you in for?" "drug related homicide, what are you in for?" "I left my dog in the car."

We'll have to build a few more prisons if we want everyone to see jail time.

I would expect an officer to have the same type of consequence as any of us who caused an animal to die in such an awful way. And, as the dog is a part of the guy's job, maybe owned by the department, and in the least depended upon by the department, he should see some sort of negative consequences from his job as well. I don't know that the whole world needs to know about it though.

Cops are human beings. They make mistakes. They forget things. They make choices, and sometimes their choices are not the best. I think you have to make the job a lot more lucrative if you are going to pound the snot out of them every time they hiccup.
05-29-2014 10:04 PM
VTGirlT

IF you haven't seen this video you should.

Being a forgetful person, I can understand making a mistake of forgetting something even as dear as a child or dog in the car, if you have something very overwhelming on your mind. However, the thoughts of something as important as a dog or child in your life, should not be that far behind, as in seconds in your thoughts- at least for me. There is no chance I would be able to forget Zelda in my car. She just is always on my mind. Even on my most overwhelmed, stressful and depressed days.

These incidents are always so sad..
05-29-2014 09:29 PM
sparra
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You say its ridiculous but would you think it was ridiculous if the dog was shot in the head? The dogs dead, he died because of a human, one he trusted and worked with. What would your reaction be if he was shot by a bad person?
They need to up the bloody education or have some sorta method to keep police k9's safe.

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He wasn't shot so not comparable.
05-29-2014 06:33 PM
llombardo As a parent I can't understand how one could ever forget a child in the car, it is mind blowing to me.
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