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05-10-2014 03:23 PM
Ellimaybel
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Originally Posted by Castlemaid View Post
Well, I hope that if anyone is concerned about their dog's behaviour, they won't feel judged about asking for help and guidance.

I'd rather tell someone that the little bit of tail chasing their puppy is doing is normal puppy stuff and to just redirect the pup and not dwell on it, then have someone come on the board distraught about their pup needing to go on medication and have their tail amputed, because they were afraid about being judged by others as being a worrier if asking questions when the behaviour first started.
I hope that doesn't happen as well. The intention was simply to create thought, not fear of judgment from others. I'm not very judgmental personally since I always keep in mind that we are mostly strangers here and don't actually know each other or our dogs.

Unfortunately there is always someone who passes judgment on almost every post seeking help. I have noticed that in some cases the OP gets upset and mouths back, but in a lot of cases we just ignore it and take it with a grain of salt.
05-10-2014 03:14 PM
Mikelia I would completely agree that a lot of ocd behaviour are instilled by the owner. Whether it started and the owners did not realize and re direct it (shadow chasing or licking) or created it and let it get out of hand (laser pointers). Under exercised dogs, under socialized dogs, a million other ways people ruin their dogs that create frustration/boredom and the dogs create a behaviour to cope that becomes an obsession. However, I do not agree that severe ocd behaviours are just 'dogs being dogs' and the dogs should be left to do as they wish. I guess that is the point in the op that I have an issue with. A dog that chases its tail to the point of it being an obsession and gets in the way of the dogs normal life and is causing damage to the dog, that dog needs help.
Most severe ocd behaviours I have seen have been with rescues or high energy dogs with the wrong owners. Yes, someone created/allowed the behaviour to develop but the dogs need intervention. When all a dog can do all day is look for shadows to pounce on I don't believe that is a very happy dog.
05-10-2014 03:12 PM
Castlemaid Well, I hope that if anyone is concerned about their dog's behaviour, they won't feel judged about asking for help and guidance.

I'd rather tell someone that the little bit of tail chasing their puppy is doing is normal puppy stuff and to just redirect the pup and not dwell on it, then have someone come on the board distraught about their pup needing to go on medication and have their tail amputed, because they were afraid about being judged by others as being a worrier if asking questions when the behaviour first started.
05-10-2014 02:33 PM
SuperG Yes, I agree with Ellimaybel....and furthermore reinforces the notion that humans need to evaluate the situation at hand and not rush to judgment deeming "human created" OCD behavior an innate characteristic of the particular dog.

As I recall, a sagacious member of this forum stated as a solution to a situation somewhat related to this as ..." quit worrying about what can't be changed and concentrate on what can be changed"....my loose interpretation of his words. And in this case...putting the emphasis on "what can be changed".

SuperG
05-10-2014 01:20 PM
Ellimaybel
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
ocd can arise by certain things like playing with a laser toy
but if i understand it, the point of this thread it is that there is no such thing as ocd but that the owner is putting it on the dog?
and that is not really the case
some dogs and cats can play with laser toys and not develop ocd
you just do not know which dogs are prone to it and which are not
The point of the thread was to ponder and question the difference between the two. I am aware that some behavior is real and can escalate. But not all
05-10-2014 01:13 PM
my boy diesel ocd can arise by certain things like playing with a laser toy
but if i understand it, the point of this thread it is that there is no such thing as ocd but that the owner is putting it on the dog?
and that is not really the case
some dogs and cats can play with laser toys and not develop ocd
you just do not know which dogs are prone to it and which are not
05-10-2014 12:33 PM
SuperG " Or rescued a dog that has become obsessed with lights because some idiot thought a laser pointer was funny. The dog becomes obsessed to the point where they cannot function in normal society."

Which agrees with my premise that some of this OCD behavior is instilled by the owner ....knowingly or unknowingly.

SuperG
05-10-2014 11:31 AM
Mikelia I agree that people tend to over react and obsess about their dogs. However, true OCD behaviours in dogs is absolutely devastating and are definitely a real concern. Have you ever seen a dog that MUST eat every pebble, twig, piece of garbage in sight. Not a puppy picking things up, but the dog feels it is a true, desperate need. Or rescued a dog that has become obsessed with lights because some idiot thought a laser pointer was funny. The dog becomes obsessed to the point where they cannot function in normal society. What if the dog doesn't just chase the light, but comes back at the source? And the laser light is transferred to any light, so then you have a dog that obsessively attacks cameras, cell phones, flash lights etc... Trust me, it is not fun and is definitely not the owner reading too much into the dog. The dog is not happy losing its mind every time a light is around.
05-10-2014 11:12 AM
petite The laser pointer does seem to build up a frenzy to find it that can escalate into obsession. I've never used one with my dogs simply because I imagine it sucks to chase something around and then it just vanishes into thin air. Maybe the lack of gratification builds frustration and eventual issues.
05-10-2014 03:54 AM
njk
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My current shepherd chased her tail as a pup....didn't last for more than a weeks or so....never had to do or say a thing.

SuperG
That's good to know. She doesn't seem anxious or anything, it only lasts for like 20 seconds then she finds something else to do.
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