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05-06-2014 09:18 PM
szariksdad I think there is good in the videos but no need to start over, just fine tune somethings. First for the heel the first time she is wrong and then you correct but she does not clean up correctly before you leave basic position, so maybe lure more using the way I recommend earlier of opening your left side of the body to get her in correct position. On the reward for **** I could not hear real well but it seems like you are working on throwing the reward before the release word. Also most forging become about from the dog anticipating the reward in this case from the right. So try and mix up by rewarding more from the left.
Good luck with training.
05-05-2014 06:12 PM
Liz&Anna Oh I'm definitely not starting over she has every thing down pretty much, I need to build on her distance and work on left turns nbd, and I do her left turns stationary, I also place her on a target and have her move her real around it with our moving her front paws, I know at some point it will all come together


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05-05-2014 09:45 AM
GatorDog I think she looks good! I think the forging problem comes with clarity of the correct position and anticipation of the reward going forward. If she liked to chase it, I would mark the behavior and release her throwing it behind you. I would also work correct position without moving for a bit to teach her to move her rear legs into place. Good work!
05-05-2014 09:11 AM
Steve Strom Hey Liz, I'd really consider going back to the beginning with her right now, before the crowding and forging is her default. Its tough to fix that except in training. I think its easier to fall back into what would be her foundation, crowding, when you trial and she figures out there's no ball.

You may want to think about teaching her to swing her rear separate of the heeling, and concentrate on her learning to get the reward without coming forward out of position. No steps at all for a while, and then when that's solid, one step at a time with a sit.
05-05-2014 08:46 AM
Liz&Anna
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I would not reward the down with the dog moving forward, I'd have gone back to the dog and rewarded the position(so breaking doesn't become a habit)
With the heeling, I'd also reward in the heel position, tossing the ball takes alot of time and I'd rather do a bit of tug/out and go right back into the heeling while the dog is in drive and not in fetch mode. We usually have the ball tucked in the left armpit(dog can't see it, but knows it is there) and drop it when the dog is doing right, then grab the string and tug, out the dog , back to fuss.
I want the dog to stay in the moment of what we are working on.
Your pup has a ton of enthusiasm and you are coming along really well!
Yes! That seems to be the general opinion here so our next session ill do it all thank you for your suggestions


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05-05-2014 08:44 AM
Liz&Anna
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I think the little bit of heeling you have looks really nice..
Thank you, we've come a long long way!! Anna has taught me allot


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05-05-2014 08:37 AM
onyx'girl I would not reward the down with the dog moving forward, I'd have gone back to the dog and rewarded the position(so breaking doesn't become a habit)
With the heeling, I'd also reward in the heel position, tossing the ball takes alot of time and I'd rather do a bit of tug/out and go right back into the heeling while the dog is in drive and not in fetch mode. We usually have the ball tucked in the left armpit(dog can't see it, but knows it is there) and drop it when the dog is doing right, then grab the string and tug, out the dog , back to fuss.
I want the dog to stay in the moment of what we are working on.
Your pup has a ton of enthusiasm and you are coming along really well!
05-05-2014 05:55 AM
G-burg I think the little bit of heeling you have looks really nice..
05-05-2014 12:32 AM
Liz&Anna
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When starting the left turns, over exaggerate your shoulder movement. Deliberately turn the front if your body into her. This may help push her back a bit since it changes the picture. Reward for any independent movement of the hind end in the beginning.

I know she likes to chase the ball, but maybe try using a tug for a bit. If she likes to tug in bitework, maybe that will transfer to smaller tug. And you can then keep her closer to you instead of all the down time of the long chase if the ball. Will help you have quicker more productive time while training, then use the ball as the final "release!"

I am pretty new to SchH as well, so I know how hard it is!!! Sport obedience is a whole different world!!!! Keep at it! You have a nice dog!


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Thank you!! Ill let you know how it goes haha


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05-05-2014 12:26 AM
gsdsar When starting the left turns, over exaggerate your shoulder movement. Deliberately turn the front if your body into her. This may help push her back a bit since it changes the picture. Reward for any independent movement of the hind end in the beginning.

I know she likes to chase the ball, but maybe try using a tug for a bit. If she likes to tug in bitework, maybe that will transfer to smaller tug. And you can then keep her closer to you instead of all the down time of the long chase if the ball. Will help you have quicker more productive time while training, then use the ball as the final "release!"

I am pretty new to SchH as well, so I know how hard it is!!! Sport obedience is a whole different world!!!! Keep at it! You have a nice dog!


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