|04-26-2014 01:28 PM|
I think I meant that combined with the other traits of the breeder, it looks sketchy. I have seen other people who use Police K-9s and it did not strike me as off. This person's website highlights it on the first page, but what is their reasoning for it?? Just looks like a marketing technique to me. You're right that I shouldn't have over-generalized though.
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|04-26-2014 05:19 AM|
Originally Posted by Kaimeju
It is also a red flag that she brags about her dogs being bred to police K-9s. Most units would not allow their dogs to be bred for profit. That's sketchy.
So do you know this to be a fact? I know a number of solid breeders who use police K9s in their lines (and in parts of Europe as well) Nothing about this breeder; did not even bother with the site, but I don't believe that is sketchy at all.
I know several of the dogs in the "Rommel" pedigree . Yes they did come from a breeding program run by a k9 handler sheriff , that did put many dogs into k9 depts. I had saw and handled and owned a dog or two from him. The one dog that I really loved "Chief" was a victim of a wave of parvo that was particularly virulent . Yes he was vaccinated , both in the USA and then later by my vet in the continuation of the vaccine protocol.
Fine in the morning. Feeling off in the afternoon. Took him to the vet that same day. The vet did absolutely everything. An hour later the dog had died on the table. The vet , the two vet techs and myself were all shedding tears. Everyone really liked this dog.
Never had a bad dog from him. New other people in Texas that had his dogs and used his dogs in breeding .
|04-26-2014 04:55 AM|
|HuskyMal89||OP.....I haven't looked at the website of said breeder but based on the fact that most of her dogs do not have some form of hip/elbow clearance (OFA,SV)(other posters comments)....I would shy away. In my opinion I think a breeder who does his/her homework on the dogs they have and tests eyes, ears, hips, elbows and so on and has titled dogs is a breeder that you wanna lean towards. You may pay more but money shouldn't be an object if you want a sound working companion at least in comparison to a breeder who doesn't test for the above things. Good luck in your search . Remember the German Shepherd was meant to be a working dog first and foremost and a breeder who has working dogs has real GSDs in my humble opinion. The watered down versions that are sold in most volume breeders aren't what you see competing in trials and working dog championships...BSP,WUSV and regional and national championships and trials here and abroad etc...|
|04-25-2014 05:57 PM|
Here is my experience
Okay, so I am actually getting a puppy from this breeder in about 3 and a half weeks from now. I just wanted to shed some light on my personal experience to date (and this will be my first GSD).
I have been talking with the daughter of the breeder, not Carol herself, even though I have met with Carol. Susan, is very lovely and has helped me through the whole process since I was interested last December. She has answered every question I have asked. What I was impressed with was when I visited them, she showed me every dog they had, did not skip one. I got to see temperaments of potential parents, and she suggested parents that would match my needs most. The place was clean, and the dogs looked very well taken care of. All dogs were very friendly to not only the breeder, but to my mom and I. And not overly friendly like a Golden, but were okay with interaction initiated by my part, etc. Also, I asked about health testing for the parents of my dog, and both have paper work (dad had a prelim of "Good" which she told me that it is not the "official" rating since he was younger than 2 years when he got it done, and mom also appeared to have "good" but the position was obscure so they will be re-doing them to send to get the OFA rating).
I believe the breeder knows her dogs, though I myself have no experience with reading pedigrees and do not neccessarily understand how breeders should match dogs up. I am still learning though, so others please don't be too harsh on me if I sound ignorant about the issue (educate me!).
I have also reached out to owners that have her dogs, and everyone I have talked to has had a positive experience (but of course there may be negative ones, I just have not come across any personally). They love their dogs and seem to be healthy, happy dogs. Many people around the Memphis area have their dogs. She keeps up with people through Facebook, and she has kept me updated with my pup every step of the way (I like the Facebook page better, sometimes the website is a little slow to be updated).
I cannot say anything though about my experience actually living with one of her dogs because I do not have him yet. He is already here and paid for, so I am getting him regardless; and he is super cute too.
I agree though that maybe looking into breeders who have titled their dogs and have clear health testing like for DM and elbow/hip HD would be a better option for what you may be looking for. This breeder though has what I want for my first GSD, and I am happy with the experience thus far.
|04-25-2014 04:58 PM|
poor word choice but some DDR dogs ive seen have massive heads and seem to be bulkier and the legs dont look as long as some other lines.
ive seen that page and a very balanced working line seems to fit the bill, want to interact and "train" my dog as much as i can. Previous dog was just a house dog that never quite learned anything past sit(to much degree my fault)
|04-25-2014 04:51 PM|
Stubby and low to the ground?
First, you need to study up on temperament, and what type of dog fits your lifestyle. Then, you move on to looks.
There are many types of GSD.
Here is a good place to start:
(Types of German Shepherds, by Wildhaus Kennels )
|04-25-2014 04:46 PM|
Well i Figured out i dont really like the boxy head types The DDR's seem to come out boxy short nosed./ but the few males that are DDR with longer noses seem stunning for me. I noticed that the czecks/slovakians have that head shape and they arent as stubby and low to the ground as the DDR. Im thinking a mix of the two? I need kind of a beginner GSD that can be non agressive towards vistors as i have many but can have the nerves to handle first tages of IPO and schutzhund as that seems to fascinate me, probably wont have enough time to go higher?
Also love the black sables, and i actually kind of like the plush coats.
|04-25-2014 04:30 PM|
|Soundguy||DDR, Czech, WGWL and WGSL all have different genetic temperament and drive traits. Different combinations of lines can produce variations of a wanted type of dog. You should decide exactly what type of GSD you want and what the intended use will be and then concentrate on breeders that tend to produce that type of dog. Hope that gives you some direction.|
|04-25-2014 04:26 PM|
|04-25-2014 03:23 PM|
Thanks for the input guys
Kind of off topic is it better to have a 100%
DDR, Czech , Slovakian as opposed to mixed?
And if some one ever wanted to breed one of those dogs with me would it be ok
Only if they have sport titles and good hips or are the genes way to unstable.
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