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04-25-2014 04:07 PM
jocoyn This forum also has a lot of threads on vaccinations where we have hashed, rehashed, and re-re-hashed the topic.
04-25-2014 03:46 PM
Heidigsd I have seen so many articles from this magazine lately that are really just out there. There are so many people that are just gullible, not sure what else to call them and believe everything they write. Just reading some of the comments makes me cringe. When people hear something is "natural" they automatically assume it's safer.

None of us want to over vaccinate or harm our dogs in any way but people just need to use common sense.
04-25-2014 03:15 PM
Sabis mom
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Kind of an extremist article against vaccinations. For the majority of people and animals that receive vaccinations the benefits are worth the risk and even the mild to moderate reactions are still better than actually getting the disease itself.

Is there room for improvement in giving vaccinations? Absolutely.

The article says that vaccinations do not protect 100%, of course not, and for humans some of the vaccinations you thought would protect for your lifetime do not. You should get a titer done in middle age. The article also tries to alarm the reader by saying many dogs got the disease they were vaccinated against within 3 months of administration. It does take some time for a body to build immunity and some vaccinations need a series of shots.

We as consumers should know more about what is in the vaccinations so we can make educated decisions on how and when to have them. People or pets may be allergic to some of the components, like you may not want to get a flu shot if you have egg allergies. Just like we have ingredients lists on food products we should have a fully disclosed ingredient list for vaccinations for us and our pets. Also when this article talks about arthritis, I think it should state Rheumatoid arthritis which is different than common arthritis as you age. RA is an autoimmune disease like asthma when the body attacks its own tissue. Saying we shouldn't give the leptospirosis vaccination because it is so uncommon is irresponsible, since it can be transmitted to humans. I live on the coast and we are warned to keep ourselves and our dogs away from dead sea lions on the beach because they can carry lepto.
Since I have a dog who likely had a serious reaction, I needed to get educated. The problem is that we have been schooled all our lives to trust and obey medical professionals, that includes the vets who tend our furry friends.
A majority of vets still promote over vaccinating and combo vacs. I was hard pressed to find a vet who would agree to exam Shadow without annual vacs. I am unable to attend training classes, even private sessions, without them and if she was able I would also be unable to attend any dog events without proof of annual vacs. So the pressure is on to over vaccinate and articles like this one play to our fears and take us in the other direction. But the bad news is most pet owners are not going to pay for an annual exam unless they need vaccinations. And THAT is the truly scary effect that alarmist articles have on the general public.
04-25-2014 02:50 PM
K9POPPY Anubis is correct, that's MAJOR B/S. Bob
04-25-2014 02:35 PM
Gretchen Kind of an extremist article against vaccinations. For the majority of people and animals that receive vaccinations the benefits are worth the risk and even the mild to moderate reactions are still better than actually getting the disease itself.

Is there room for improvement in giving vaccinations? Absolutely.

The article says that vaccinations do not protect 100%, of course not, and for humans some of the vaccinations you thought would protect for your lifetime do not. You should get a titer done in middle age. The article also tries to alarm the reader by saying many dogs got the disease they were vaccinated against within 3 months of administration. It does take some time for a body to build immunity and some vaccinations need a series of shots.

We as consumers should know more about what is in the vaccinations so we can make educated decisions on how and when to have them. People or pets may be allergic to some of the components, like you may not want to get a flu shot if you have egg allergies. Just like we have ingredients lists on food products we should have a fully disclosed ingredient list for vaccinations for us and our pets. Also when this article talks about arthritis, I think it should state Rheumatoid arthritis which is different than common arthritis as you age. RA is an autoimmune disease like asthma when the body attacks its own tissue. Saying we shouldn't give the leptospirosis vaccination because it is so uncommon is irresponsible, since it can be transmitted to humans. I live on the coast and we are warned to keep ourselves and our dogs away from dead sea lions on the beach because they can carry lepto.
04-25-2014 01:08 PM
Anubis_Star I couldn't even read through all if that. Most of it was BS.

I will tell you that first study was likely very skewed.

Pups need 2 boosters of Parvo for example to be covered. An 8 week old puppy with only 1 round of shots is still very much going to be at risk for parvo.

As well I find all these three month combos odd. Only distemper or lepto dogs I've ever seen were none vaccinated. I haven't seen a ton of distemper but I see a lot of lepto in the summer and fall

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04-25-2014 11:46 AM
jocoyn I like a lot of articles from this group but I think their opinions on vaccines are dangerous and misguided and think Dr Dodds is more on the correct track

Tired of hearing that vaccines did not help with polio and measles epidemic. I am old enough to have friends in leg braces and who are fighting post polio syndrome. I had measles and got very sick as a child. Now kids are dying from them again after lapse in immunization. Do we give too many? I think so. Do we give to frequency? I am certain. Do vaccines work? Absolutely. JMO

Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | 2013 and 2014 Canine Vaccination Protocol - W. Jean Dodds, DVM
04-25-2014 11:38 AM
kiya
Vaccine article

http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com...239f31fbcb4d98

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