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04-22-2014 03:53 PM
wyoung2153 My allergy panel was for food only and around $170 and it tested 20 ingredients, but there are varying tests you can get done and more things tested.
04-22-2014 03:41 PM
Contego
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If you can afford it (don't know your money situation sorry) I would honestly do a food allergy panel. I say that only because hind sight being 20/20 for me I wish I'd have done this 2 years ago when the vet thought it was environmental allergies vs food. It is so hard to do elimination diets, unless you are doing Raw, IMO. With Kibble there is just too many things in it. Like Titan was only allergic to 2 proteins and many of the fillers in the food. There was no way I would have known that without the test or doing elimination with feeding raw.

About his size. Just keep in mind he may just be a small shepherd.. My guess is you are concerned with bone growth right? not so much the actual weight?
On average, how much is the allergy panel? I'm already vet poor after working on numerous issues from the get-go.

I would be totally fine with him just being a small shepherd--that is definitely not my issue. I'm more concerned by the small bone structure. His legs seem a good, normal size, but then his hips and shoulders don't seem to be growing much. he's oddly small to me. But his feet are huge, so I do have hope! Or maybe I'll just have an adorably small boy with big clod-hoppers
04-22-2014 03:10 PM
wyoung2153
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I guess I can't really say I'm 100% it's not the food. I had him on TOTW starting out and about a month-a month and a half ago he got itchy and shortly after that I switched him to 4health. I told the vet all this. asked him about the food, and he thought it was just dry skin and recommended fish oil. I will definitely dig a little deeper on the food thing and see if I can do a process of elimination.

I told the vet right off the bat I was concerned about his size and he has told me the whole time he is fine and dont worry. But I can't be convinced of that. Not when he's as small as he is. His actual weight,32#,isn't the concern as much as how raily and lean he is. I know lean is good but he's a little too lean and narrow. Like I don't expect him to be bulky or bulk up any time soon, but everything is small. Shoulder width, hip width, and waist area. It's all little. I have an issue when I try to explain that on here, people just think that he a normal lean etc. We had a GSD when I was a kid that was lean til the day he died so I totally get it. This is much smaller than lean. "Lean" still has the growing bone structure. When I fan my hand out and put it over his hips, I have about and inch to inch and a half of fingers beyond his hips.
If you can afford it (don't know your money situation sorry) I would honestly do a food allergy panel. I say that only because hind sight being 20/20 for me I wish I'd have done this 2 years ago when the vet thought it was environmental allergies vs food. It is so hard to do elimination diets, unless you are doing Raw, IMO. With Kibble there is just too many things in it. Like Titan was only allergic to 2 proteins and many of the fillers in the food. There was no way I would have known that without the test or doing elimination with feeding raw.

About his size. Just keep in mind he may just be a small shepherd.. My guess is you are concerned with bone growth right? not so much the actual weight?
04-22-2014 02:26 PM
Contego
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How sure are you that it's not the food that's causing him to itch? Titan has itched a lot almost all his life.. only to realize now that he's been allergic to everything I have been feeding him. It may be worth a shot to look into Also, Coconut Oil. Ton of people on here feed it and I have started too.

Also, have you taken him to the vet for his small size and lack of energy?

I guess I can't really say I'm 100% it's not the food. I had him on TOTW starting out and about a month-a month and a half ago he got itchy and shortly after that I switched him to 4health. I told the vet all this. asked him about the food, and he thought it was just dry skin and recommended fish oil. I will definitely dig a little deeper on the food thing and see if I can do a process of elimination.

I told the vet right off the bat I was concerned about his size and he has told me the whole time he is fine and dont worry. But I can't be convinced of that. Not when he's as small as he is. His actual weight,32#,isn't the concern as much as how raily and lean he is. I know lean is good but he's a little too lean and narrow. Like I don't expect him to be bulky or bulk up any time soon, but everything is small. Shoulder width, hip width, and waist area. It's all little. I have an issue when I try to explain that on here, people just think that he a normal lean etc. We had a GSD when I was a kid that was lean til the day he died so I totally get it. This is much smaller than lean. "Lean" still has the growing bone structure. When I fan my hand out and put it over his hips, I have about and inch to inch and a half of fingers beyond his hips.
04-22-2014 01:52 PM
wyoung2153 How sure are you that it's not the food that's causing him to itch? Titan has itched a lot almost all his life.. only to realize now that he's been allergic to everything I have been feeding him. It may be worth a shot to look into Also, Coconut Oil. Ton of people on here feed it and I have started too.

Also, have you taken him to the vet for his small size and lack of energy?
04-22-2014 01:43 PM
Contego Thank you for the encouragement. I really appreciate it. I definitely don't have a bad dog, this is not the normal frustrations I see from others on here. I guess I'm just in shock a little bit at the health problems. I've never had an unhealthy dog so this is all brand new. And now this paranoia about his hips--quite honestly it sucks. I got a video of him walking around at lunch, I'll try to get that posted soon, would love some input. I'll post that in the hips section too. I knew hips would/could be an issue but I certainly didn't expect it at 6 months.

Would you mind posting a link to the Sunrise products? A quick google search didn't turn up the right thing.
04-22-2014 01:21 PM
pineconeforestGSD Sunrise products sound like they may help. we have the Garlic tabs they make. Teana coat looks awesome I must say. but after reading one of their catalogs I see they have several things that may help you.
its wonderful how much you love him, ill bet everything works out just fine.
04-22-2014 01:13 PM
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04-22-2014 12:50 PM
Gretchen I'm so sorry about your pup's health issues. Our previous dog had low thyroid and then cancer. Our current dog had lots of health issues as a pup, GI and itchy skin, and now as an adult some orthopedic.The constant health issues an be so stressful over such a long period of time.

Without going into a lot of our own history, I just want to say switching foods helped a lot. We went off kibble and switched to The Honest Kitchen brand. Actually we did 1/2 kibble and 1/2 this for about 4 months, saw impressive improvement and thought, why not just get off the kibble. So now we use 1/2 THK and 1/2 a prepared frozen raw food by Natures' Variety. Skin is great, sometime our dog still get GI issues but recovers in a day and we don't need to go to the vet for treatment.
04-22-2014 12:50 PM
Contego

Not sure if that one will work because of privacy settings. Fingers crossed. You can see the missing hair spot on his hip.
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