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|04-16-2014 10:28 AM|
|Galathiel||I just switched my 1 year old pup to Fromm Gold Adult. Just an FYI .. it's 24% protein and 16% fat. Mine spends a lot of time indoors as we STILL haven't gotten his outdoor kennel set up (that I got for Christmas 'sigh'). He's already feeling it as he is solid black. Hopefully we can get his kenneling finished soon so he can get more time acclimating by staying out in the mornings.|
|04-16-2014 10:03 AM|
This is a great post. I live in phoenix and we have already had temps in the 90's and our new pup (almost 5 months) has already figured out how to find the shade. Yesterday at training, it was hot and he was tired before usual and trying to find the shade. Our trainer at that point, told me to only treat him in the sun (during training) so that he can get used to it and won't lay down on me (which is what he was doing). Trainer also decided to move the training back an hour to 9am.
We have recently been trying to ease our dog into our pool, but he doesn't love it yet. I am hoping that when the temps reach the 115's here, he will realize how refreshing it is and want to jump in!
Otherwise, we head to the high country on here on the weekends with elevations over 6,000' with much cooler temps! We are leaving tomorrow and he loves hiking and camping up in the mountains! Ahhhhh....relief for us all!
|04-16-2014 09:50 AM|
Originally Posted by jocoyn View Post
I appreciate anyone or any company that provides unbiased research that can help us make better decisions about our dogs. If Hill's is that guy, I thank them. I just won't feed their food if I can help it
|04-16-2014 08:39 AM|
I agree the ingrdients hills uses are garbage and the military probably gives a squat about longevity but perhaps does performance and working life? Anyway a TON of the research into feed formulations was done by Hill........so they have a lot of foundational knowledge...
Honestly, most of the quality feeds rely on Hill's research (which led to AAFCO) for their own formulations and most of the standard AAFCO stuff was on largely corn based diets which means nutrient absorption on our other diets is most certainly different. The Nature's logic guy has a lot to say on that, though I am rotating brands now as I am not going to trust one brand/formulation to have it all right.
|04-16-2014 08:02 AM|
Our military dogs eat crap. Hills SD AD. As you mentioned, there is a big difference between dogs that train for hours a day, plus real searches, and a weekend hike for a pet.
You mentioned hydration through the skin, which is sub Q. I mentioned that earlier but should have defined it. You take a large catheter and insert it under the skin, and then force a pocket of fluid in the subcutaneous layer. I will put a liter of fluid on a dog before a long mission in the middle of the day.
I learned a lot from the articles myself.
|04-16-2014 07:38 AM|
David, the first article is consistent with what my friend told me (he is traveling right now)...to LOWER the protein and RAISE the fat. He was suggesting a 24-26% protein food. That combination is hard to find and can get wonky balancing nutrients.
I am not averse to grain as the source of carbs as long as it is lower and gluten free. I know food targeted for hunting dogs is usually in the 30/20 range
I found this article as well and it looks very informative and corroborates the other.....I hope the link works. I think most of use need to realize that very few have what would be considered "performance dogs"....the weekend hike or SAR training or search.....no....we are just worrying about overheating not "performance" foods though some of the info here can be helpful for the weekend warrior. I think hydration is the biggy and getting high drive dogs to DRINK with adequate regularity is critical. Your bomb dogs are in the realm. What do they feed for performance. I bet it is not the most expensive stuff out there either!
|04-16-2014 06:03 AM|
Originally Posted by Harry and Lola View Post
|04-16-2014 05:45 AM|
Feeding the Canine Athlete by Hilary Watson
Hydration Strategies for Exercising Dogs, by Arleigh J. Reynolds, DVM, PhD, DACVN,
2 interesting articles in PDF format.
|04-15-2014 06:48 PM|
Certainly! This is NOT it by the way, but it looks interesting.
hot and cooling foods for pets, yin and yan in dogs, traditional chinese medicine for pets, damp heat in dogs, treating phlegm symptoms in pets, using food to balance yin and yan, allergy remedy for dogs
|04-15-2014 06:47 PM|
Originally Posted by jocoyn View Post
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