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04-17-2014 11:57 AM
kay88
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Originally Posted by Courtney View Post
I think if you decided to purchase a pup from the breeder you can absolutely count on zero support if an issue arises. They have set the contract up to exempt themselves.

But I think these were snippets of various contracts - not just one?
I have passed on both breeders. The guarantee stipulations were all from the same breeder, the questionnaire was a different breeder.
04-16-2014 08:33 AM
Courtney I think if you decided to purchase a pup from the breeder you can absolutely count on zero support if an issue arises. They have set the contract up to exempt themselves.

But I think these were snippets of various contracts - not just one?
04-16-2014 08:28 AM
K9POPPY Sounds like anitram hit the nail on the head- coming from a lawyer, it is very likely good advice, after all, he knows laws. For me. I go by GUT INSTINCT, and in this case, it hits me all wrong, too many things sound hinky- I would pass- IMHO< Bob
04-15-2014 11:18 PM
Rottendog I can see like several of the others, where they may have had a bad experience with someone in the home not being of sound mind. However, that is an over the top question. I don't think any breeder has any business going there. I think they should make a judgement of stability from their correspondence and hopefully a face to face meeting. If I were the breeder, I would do a home visit if I felt uneasy. I've seen Rottie breeders go to other states to do home visits to verify the potential owners statements. And decline if they don't think the person is a good fit for their pup. With the feeding and training, I'm all for advice and I'm sure I'm going to be leaning on my breeder for info since this is my first GSD coming up. But I would balk if a breeder writes into the contract what you can and can't feed the pup. I've raised and trained more than one pup to a happy healthy adulthood and will be perfectly able to do so again. I would find another breeder.
04-15-2014 01:00 AM
middleofnowhere All they say is if you do those things, it voids the guarantee on the dog. They are saying basically that they will guarantee the dog IF you do these things.

So far as mental illness, they may have sold to someone who had a family member with serious delusions that caused them to act oddly around the dog = bad results and they do not want to place a dog in such a situation. They do want to know the situation their pups will be facing. It helps select an appropriate pup (some pups in a litter will be high drive, others very intense + drivey, and yet others not give a rip about most everything.)
04-14-2014 10:05 PM
glowingtoadfly
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Originally Posted by Girl_Loves_Hydraulics View Post
They asked you about your mental health? I would "almost" be inclined to say that's borderline illegal, but its probably just an oversight (pretty sure there's a law about the right to privacy somewhere). I think a more appropriate question would be, "Have you ever been conflicted of any crimes against animals?". There are many mental health issues that are known to be less severe when someone interacts with an animal/animals on a daily basis. They say that animals help people in dealing with things like depression and anxiety. Hopefully I am not alone on this one lol...if so, my apologies ahead of time. Maybe in Canada it's different...
Yes, I am sketched out by the mental health clause. Seems like discrimination...
04-14-2014 09:57 PM
Jax08 I would pass. I can understand the mental health issues but once they start dictating food I'm out. There was a breeder in FL I was very interested in but if you didn't give a certain supplement and food the contract was void. Just not into being micromanaged.
04-14-2014 08:45 PM
selzer
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Originally Posted by anitram View Post
I think a lot of it sounds excessive and from a legal point of view (I'm a lawyer), essentially unenforceable anyway. First, how are they going to monitor that you're, for example, feeding raw? Come to your house and check every day? And then what, repossess the dog? Commence legal action that's going to cost them tens of thousands of bucks? I mean, let's get real.

Where in Canada are you? I recently got a pup from a great breeder who was wonderful to deal with and didn't have a contract full of over-the-top clauses.
My guess is that they will be able to bully an owner out of not pursuing any type of warranty in the event the pup has a problem that is supposed to be covered, by the owner not being able to prove that they jumped all their hoops. It is kind of mean really, because when the puppy does have a genetic problem, then they start asking the questions, is he intact? When did you get him neutered? Did you use a halti? What are you feeding -- well, that's your problem, these dogs will get dysplasia if you feed them grain, that food has grain in it, and so forth.

It just seems like someone who is a little too savvy when it comes to covering their butt on their health guaranty.
04-14-2014 08:34 PM
anitram I think a lot of it sounds excessive and from a legal point of view (I'm a lawyer), essentially unenforceable anyway. First, how are they going to monitor that you're, for example, feeding raw? Come to your house and check every day? And then what, repossess the dog? Commence legal action that's going to cost them tens of thousands of bucks? I mean, let's get real.

Where in Canada are you? I recently got a pup from a great breeder who was wonderful to deal with and didn't have a contract full of over-the-top clauses.
04-14-2014 08:01 PM
Girl_Loves_Hydraulics I meant "convicted" of any crimes against animals...Guess I'm not smart enough to figure out how to edit my posts yet lol
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