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|04-14-2014 10:23 PM|
Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
|04-14-2014 10:20 PM|
I think essentially, whether doing it correct or not, she is probably doing counter conditioning.
However, i was trained different. It's not just about jamming treats in their mouth at a high value. (for my dog its fear aggression to strangers) But i wait till she looks at the "scary" object and than she gets a treat. So it can happen every other second that she gets a treat, but the treat delivery has a purpose, not just used as a distraction. Also ensuring she stays under her threshold is the biggest importance. By the sounds of the dog's level of aggression, walking next to another dog is a bit fast.. Also incorporating "happy talk" so that you can use that tone of voice when you see the "bad" thing, and it can also lower the humans stress level using happy talk, you can even sing familiar tunes such as happy birthday, which will in turn lower the dogs stress in general since you are not as stressed.
It is however a bit scary that she would want to practice on a PUP! Sheesh! I would only ask if the other dog were stable with other dogs.
You did the right thing. I would have said heck to no! Your pup need only positive interactions with dog at this point, you can't chance it even if it were to mean to help another dog out. There are other dogs to help out that dog aggressive dog.
|04-14-2014 08:22 PM|
Originally Posted by Lark View Post
When I did eventually cross the street, the boxer turned and stared at us, may have given a low growl but no bark.
|04-14-2014 01:37 PM|
Always look out for your dog's well being before anyone else's dog, especially when you're dealing with an impressionable puppy. If you don't feel comfortable, don't risk it. Go with your gut. It's not your responsibility to rehabilitate someone else's dog. It's nice to help if you can, but not at the risk of your dog's temperament and training.
As for what she's doing with her dog, it seems like a sound plan. As long as she's marking and rewarding the correct behavior like a calm sit and not letting the dog lunge and then treating/rewarding that. Seems like a good plan for them as long as the dog is acting appropriately.
|04-14-2014 01:36 PM|
Delgado is dog reactive, I've had great success working with him on it but I would never ever ask a person with a puppy to be my test subject. Puppies are easily impressionable and why would I chance a bad encounter for the pup's sake just so that I can test something out on my dog. Personally I would have done the same as the OP and told the other owner that you want your pup to only have good meetings with other dogs
If I wanted to test Delgado I would set up controlled 'surprise' meetings with people I knew had calm easy going dogs, not just Joe Smith off the street that I have no idea what their dog might do. Always set your dog up to succeed, I don't believe in deliberately setting them up to fail
|04-14-2014 01:35 PM|
|Blanketback||At least she's trying. Look on the bright side: you crossed the road and she was able to keep her dog under threshold and gobbling treats. That's a huge step right there, if she was resorting to bear hugs not long ago, lol!|
|04-14-2014 01:35 PM|
|Lark||OP - I agree with you that your job is to protect your puppy. But I'm a little curious - how did the dog react today? Or weren't you close enough to tell? Did the treats seem to be working?|
|04-14-2014 01:34 PM|
|Liesje||Not only were you correct in protecting your puppy, but she's got to understand that "flooding" a dog (continuously exposing to whatever overstimulates the dog) in this type of situation is NOT going to work. She should be thankful that you might be present *across the street*. If you move too close and her dog reacts again, that will just un-do all her work. She needs to be careful to work her dog below the threshold (not reacting) for a looooong time and take her time with this. The "look at that" game and treats can be very effective but timing and working at the right distance are key. I also agree with Twyla that she'd be better off doing this work around mature dogs that are proven very neutral and not a puppy that is probably going to want to interact.|
|04-14-2014 01:33 PM|
|GSKnight||Sorry... i missed the part in your original post where you said she asked you to stay on her side of the street.|
|04-14-2014 01:28 PM|
Originally Posted by GSKnight View Post
I was actually in the process of crossing the street when she yelled out and asked if I would mind staying on her side.
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