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04-17-2014 11:51 PM
carmspack interesting information re - Strep zoo and evolving genetics of parvo and even behaviour Deadly bacterium strikes shelter dogs - DVM

Deadly bacterium strikes shelter dogs - DVM

strep is scary stuff How Harmless Bacteria Quickly Turned Into a Flesh-Eating Monster
04-17-2014 10:27 PM
Magwart If anyone cares to get back to whether this "new" strain is actually parvo or not, I'd like to know if any of the rescues there have run necropsy tests for Strep Zoo.

The symptoms (coughing -- mucous -- blood) make me wonder whether it may be a "strep zoo" outbreak, which seems to run as a secondary infection to kennel cough in some but not all dogs in exposed kennels. Our shelter had an outbreak of strep zoo last year -- LSU vet school figured out what it was and confirmed it through necropsy, and tested antibiotics on it to see what would work. It was lethal, contagious, and nasty--dogs crash quickly, with lots of bloody mucous. I recall hearing from the vet staff that injectable Batril was the only thing that seemed to work to save the dogs that survived.

It's very, very rare -- there was an outbreak in New York somewhere too. I almost wonder if that's what's popping up.
04-17-2014 09:48 PM
Kris L. Christine Just went through some of my material & found this Q&A with Dr. Dodds that seems particularly pertinent to this thread.

Q&A with Dr. Dodds: What should I do to protect my adult dogs during a Parvovirus


Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | Q&A with Dr. Dodds: What should I do to protect my adult dogs during a Parvovirus outbreak?

Question: I was told there is an outbreak of the Parvovirus in Pennsylvania. I haven’t vaccinated my adult dogs in years. I was told by a friend to do 3 sets of vaccines on adults to help in the event of Parvo. I am concerned to do that. What is your recommendation? Thanks so much for your time and help.


Dr. Dodds: Oh, my – that is overkill – every time you give a properly vaccinated adult dog another MLV canine parvovirus vaccine – especially if they are already immunized (protected), the vaccine can temporarily neutralize and reduce the existing antibody level for several days until the vaccine stimulates another immune response (in 3-10 days). It also takes three days, if you vaccinate a dog with MLV canine parvovirus vaccine when they have been exposed to the native live virus, before any protection will develop. [This is unlike canine distemper virus where native live virus exposure and simultaneous vaccination with MLV distemper vaccine will mount protection immediately.]


So, over-vaccinating well-immunized dogs because of fear of parvovirus disease with regional outbreaks (they are happening everywhere now with the virulent parvo2-c strain) can leave them more vulnerable to the live native virus. Realistic and safe options are: 1) measure parvovirus vaccine (can measure distemper titer at the same time for equal price; ~ $45-50) titers now on adult dogs; or, 2) give them just one booster of parvovirus only (e.g. NeoPar by NeoTech, available in single or more doses from Revival Animal Health, among other sources).


Best for the Holidays! Jean Dodds, DVM


W. Jean Dodds, DVM
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11561 Salinaz Avenue
Garden Grove, CA 92843
04-17-2014 09:30 AM
Kris L. Christine
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Originally Posted by Gwenhwyfair View Post
When I checked with my vet is pricey like that too for titer tests. Maybe Kris will have some more information on the rabies titer, I've never checked into it.
Rabies Titers have to be sent out to labs & thus can be expensive because you will incur a fee for the veterinary visit to draw the blood, plus the laboratory expense.

Here's a link to the Kansas State University Lab with testing fee schedule: Rabies Laboratory and the fee schedule for testing at Hemopet Hemopet .
04-15-2014 08:35 PM
jocoyn I did mine as an add on for my yearly panels and I think they were $45 each. I did not do the rabies titer but one is available through Antech which is the lab group my vet uses. Pricing is not on the Antech web page but they offer a lot of different tests.
04-15-2014 07:27 PM
Gwenhwyfair When I checked with my vet is pricey like that too for titer tests.

Maybe Kris will have some more information on the rabies titer, I've never checked into it.

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I do parvo/distemper every year for Nikki and our vet doesn't have these test kits yet. I pay $100 for the parvo/distemper but the rabies titer was much more. If I remember correctly (I have to look up the receipt) the shipping alone was $75 and the total was over $200. I was told it has to be shipped to Kansas, it's the only place that does the rabies titer...or has it changed?

Rabies Laboratory
04-15-2014 07:14 PM
Heidigsd
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Originally Posted by Gwenhwyfair View Post
HeidiGSD I'm quoting this link about less expensive titer tests that Kris shared up earlier in this thread. The expense was a problem but with these tests it should help.....
I do parvo/distemper every year for Nikki and our vet doesn't have these test kits yet. I pay $100 for the parvo/distemper but the rabies titer was much more. If I remember correctly (I have to look up the receipt) the shipping alone was $75 and the total was over $200. I was told it has to be shipped to Kansas, it's the only place that does the rabies titer...or has it changed?

Rabies Laboratory
04-15-2014 06:21 PM
Gwenhwyfair HeidiGSD I'm quoting this link about less expensive titer tests that Kris shared up earlier in this thread. The expense was a problem but with these tests it should help.....



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Originally Posted by Kris L. Christine View Post
Titers are much less expensive if you ask your veterinarian to get in an-house kit so that they don't have to be sent off to a lab. Two different types are commercially available, TiterChek & Vaccicheck:

Here's the link for the 15 minute in-house titer tests for distemper and parvo: TiterChek Synbiotics
||| Synbiotics Corporation |||

From an article entitled, Ask Your Vet for TiterChek by Rhonad L. Rundle, 07/31/02 The Wall Street Journal
"Michael Dutton, a veterinarian and owner of Weare Animal Hospital in Weare, N.H., says the new TiterChek can help him and his clients determine which pets need a booster. ...... Dr. Dutton says he is charging clients $30 for the new in-office TiterChek test. That's less than half his $64 charge for the lab tests, which take 10 days and require mailing specimens overnight in ice packs. "

VACCICHECK Biogal Home - Veterinary Supplies | Antibody Tests Vet Kits | Tools for Veterinary Diagnosis : Here's the link to Dr. Schultz's Summary Results on his testing of VacciCheck for the USDA Biogal Home - Veterinary Supplies | Antibody Tests Vet Kits | Tools for Veterinary Diagnosis
04-15-2014 05:16 PM
Heidigsd
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I would love to see rabies titer testing become the exemption. They can offer that in place of the shots IMO.
I doubt that many people would do it because it's so expensive. I did it with Nikki last year and she ended up getting her rabies vaccine anyway because it came back low
04-15-2014 05:11 PM
Gwenhwyfair Thanks for the additional information jocoyn!
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