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04-13-2014 11:12 PM
lhczth As a breeder I prefer that first contact is made via email. Some prefer the phone.

Big turn off are people that send out a "form" email to many breeders asking questions that are clearly on the breeders' websites. I had a person email me asking for my dogs' registered names and OFA information which is available on my site. If someone is too lazy to take the time to at least go through my site, I have to wonder if they will take the time to correctly raise and train one of my pups. I also tend to delete emails that only say "How much are your Shepard puppies?"

I actually would feel very uncomfortable taking money/payments from a person long before a pup was born. I don't even like to take deposits. Far better to just put the money into a special account and save it that way.

Do your research, get a feel for the dogs and the idiosyncrasies of different breeders. When you find the right breeder with the right dogs, get on their waiting list.
04-13-2014 06:19 PM
Shade Be open and honest and find a breeder that you feel comfortable with. In the end you're not just buying a dog that can live up to 12 years, you're buying a relationship with the breeder for the life of the dog.

The more information the breeder and you share the easier it will be to find the best match for you in the litter of puppies.
04-13-2014 05:49 PM
SuperG Heaven help you, if you should ever disagree with a breeder.....just go with the flow....and then look for another breeder.

Not making a sweeping generalization but too many breeders are a strange breed indeed.


SuperG
04-13-2014 05:26 PM
Girl_Loves_Hydraulics OK axing the font...and thank you for the responses, they were very helpful.
04-13-2014 04:40 PM
scarfish your font sucks. please type in a normal font. you're killing me. i tried to read your first post but gave up halfway through.
04-13-2014 04:36 PM
onyx'girl There are a few clubs in a two hour drive you should visit over the summer months. A trial is nice to go and watch, but seeing dogs in trial isn't the same as watching them train. I think going to a few places on a regular basis will give you a better picture of the different lines.
If you are on fb, here is a page with events posted often(though not all events!) https://www.facebook.com/groups/109903339084373/
Two IPO clubs will be holding trials in June, worth attending:
United Schutzhund Clubs of America ? Region/Events
04-13-2014 04:25 PM
Girl_Loves_Hydraulics
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Originally Posted by Gwenhwyfair View Post
It would help for you to narrow down which line you are interested in, then contact the breeders involved in those lines, else you'll be inundated with many, many different breeders with very different types of dogs.

Have you delved into the differences between; West German Showline, American Showline and Working lines yet?

Once you've decided that then you can come here and look up or ask about specific breeders who are producing the type of dog you want.
Thank you Gwen. I have read a few different sites that have described some of the differences, though I probably need to re-read once or twice more to make sure I fully comprehend and that the choice I made is adequate. I am kinda torn which is most of the reason. I've recently made an investment that has allowed me to make a 5 to 6 year plan. I will be purchasing some property in a more rural area. We have been in the process of learning some basic farming and small animal raising. I want a dog that is both a family member (myself, my husband, my 9 y.o. son, and 2 cats), but that I can also train and condition to help keep things in order on a larger piece of property. I currently have a good sized home with a large totally fenced in yard (10 ft security fence). I think I want a dog who's a thinker, more than a reactive one.
04-13-2014 12:00 PM
Dainerra once you have narrowed down what you are interested in (activity/sport, Czech/American SL/DDR/etc, and some breeders whose dogs you like), I like to do an introduction letter to the breeder.

I tell about myself and family, other pets that I own. Activity level. Previous training experience and what experience I have with the breed. What sports or activities I am interested in doing with the dog. I tell why I am interested in a dog of their breeding.
Here is an example that I sent with a buyer questionnaire.

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3. Why do you want a doberman?
I have long been a fan of the working dog/protection breeds. I currently own GSDs but have always been intrigued by the doberman. The velcro personality, protective instinct, and intelligence are things that I look for in a dog. I prefer dogs that are intelligent problem solvers vs an "obedient" dog. I am involved in many dog activities as well as hiking and want an active breed that can keep up with myself and my GSD.

4. How many people in your household? Please include sex and ages.
myself age38
Husband age 41
daughter age 17
daughter age 12

6. Are you looking for a family pet, show dog or working dog?
all of the above. My dogs are first and foremost family pets. I dabble in conformation. AKC conformation is not something that I am actively doing with my GSD simply because he is a working line dog. I do rally and obedience. I am starting agility training also. I recently received UKC dual registration for my GSD and plan to pursue a conformation title in that venue as well as rally and obedience. I will do the same with my future dogs.

5. Do you presently own any other dogs or cats? What kind and sex?
I own a male GSD. He is intact and I currently have no plans to neuter him re the contract with his breeder.

7. Have you had any experience training or showing a dog?
I have done some conformation showing. As well as obedience and rally. My current dog (2 years old) has his RN and RA titles as well as his CGC. We are currently preparing for RE and Novice Obedience.

8. Are you a member of any dog club or organization? If yes, please list.
North Arkansas Kennel Club

9. What would your training/showing goals be with your doberman, if any
I would like to become more involved in conformation. I will trial in Rally, Obedience and agility. I wish that Schutzhund was an option for me but time and distance are an obstacle at this point.

10. Have you had any experience taping cropped ears?
no. However I do have several local kennel club members who are experienced with taping ears in Great Danes and Bouviers.

11. Do you want a male or female? Why?
Female. I believe that it will be easier to integrate a bitch puppy into our home since I own a dominant male already. However, I am not set on a particular sex as much as finding a dog that is a good match for my family.

12. Describe the ideal dog for your needs
I am looking for a confident, driven dog. Toy motivated vs treat motivated is a plus. I want a dog that is a problem solver and independent thinker. Health and temperament are first and foremost importance vs looks. I am not afraid of the training challenge of a working line dog. I enjoy the work of helping the dog figure out things on his own vs rote obedience drills.
I do not want a blue or fawn dog but that is my only cosmetic concern. I am not looking to breed and no desire to raise a litter. I would consider allowing a male to stud if he is titled and has passed all health clearances but only with the mentor-ship of someone more knowledgeable in the breed (the same situation/contract I currently have with my GSD's breeder).
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13. Do you have a fence? How high is it?
There is a small fenced yard (4foot fence). It is used mainly for supervised playtime/potty breaks. We do have a doggie door but it is blocked off if necessary. We also have a larger unfenced portion of the yard that we use for exercise/play time. Play time is on a long line unless/until the dog is reliable off-leash with supervision. Dogs are not outside the fenced yard unsupervised at any time.


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I am not looking to add a dog in the immediate future. I have more training to put into my GSD before I am ready to take on a new puppy. I am looking at approximately a 2 year time frame, at which point my GSD will be 4 years old and finished with his foundation training. This will allow me to focus on starting off a young dog and the extra work/socialization that requires more one-on-one attention.
At this point, I am looking at breeders to find someone most likely to have a dog to suit my needs. I immediately added your kennel to my list. Besides the absolutely gorgeous dogs, I prefer to support a breeder who works their dogs in their original purpose. Though I can't currently pursue Schutzhund/IPO/RingSport type training, I feel that it is the best way to preserve the working drive and abilities of this type of breed. I am hoping that you would consider my family a good match for your vision of the doberman pinscher.
04-13-2014 11:45 AM
Gwenhwyfair It would help for you to narrow down which line you are interested in, then contact the breeders involved in those lines, else you'll be inundated with many, many different breeders with very different types of dogs.

Have you delved into the differences between; West German Showline, American Showline and Working lines yet?

Once you've decided that then you can come here and look up or ask about specific breeders who are producing the type of dog you want.


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OK makes perfect sense...Thank you for the insight. Just want to make sure I don't sound too incompetent or give anyone the wrong vibe. Now back to researching breeders. Seems to be quite a few in the Michigan region...
04-13-2014 11:41 AM
Girl_Loves_Hydraulics OK makes perfect sense...Thank you for the insight. Just want to make sure I don't sound too incompetent or give anyone the wrong vibe. Now back to researching breeders. Seems to be quite a few in the Michigan region...
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