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05-01-2014 09:45 AM
Originally Posted by misslesleedavis1 View Post
Prongs are great tools. A flat collar or a leash can be a potential hazard too in the hands of the wrong person.
Before I used a prong and had Eko on a flat collar, he pulled so hard trying to get another dog that he pulled me to my knees and the flat collar choked him so much he had to go to the vet.
05-01-2014 08:43 AM
misslesleedavis1 Prongs are great tools. A flat collar or a leash can be a potential hazard too in the hands of the wrong person.

I stopped using the prong a while ago because ty listens to heal now and there is no need for it. The whole point of training tools is to use them until you reach your desired behavior then you can hang them up.
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05-01-2014 08:40 AM
DutchKarin Kakarot, I think your dog will self-correct shortly. You just started working with the collar. Lots of youtube videos on using a prong collar.

OP, I too think you should meet with a different trainer. Something else is up. Seems like your pup needs some training to understand the heel and to build a better relationship with you. It is important that the pup knows what it is you want before you slap all these collars on her. You may not like this, but reading about a 6 month old that has gone through all these collars and techniques, I'm thinking that you have some remedial work to do. The relationship is likely damaged with her and you are going to have to repair that damage. A good trainer will be worth a ton (and that is coming from my painful experience). Finding a trainer that works with prong collars can take some time. Check with people, breeders, and dog clubs even police about trainers that work with protection breeds.

Don't give up but I do think something else is up.
05-01-2014 08:27 AM
sabledog3 Why do you want to use a tool that is obviously hurting your dog? I'm not sure about you, but my dog it's my friend and I don't want to intentionally hurt him.

I too have a young, energetic dog that it's learning to walk nicely on a leash. I tire him out awhile before I practice heeling or loose leash walking. We run around the back yard, go hiking on a long line, do tricks, etc, before we walk.

I use a front clip harness in distracting areas (check out the lupine no pull harness) a front clip harness can help you get more control with out hurting your dog and making him yelp. I try to always remember that training should be fun, fair, and firm.
04-19-2014 10:46 PM
boomer11 Yes shrug off his yelping. He isn't stupid. He'll learn that he just can't run ahead whenever he wants. If the prong is falling then it honestly can't be very tight....
04-19-2014 10:37 PM
kakarot did tons of research before using the prong collar and i used it today for the first time.. kept it up high on the neck, light tug when correcting, but it kept falling down to where his normal collar would sit and i kept having to adjust it. how tight (without him trying to pull) is too tight?

also, he walked SO much better today than any other times we've tried to walk him, so we're going to continue to use it for a while until he fully gets it.. but once in a while he'll get too excited sometimes when he's in a heel position and he'll try to RUN forward.. the prong collar tightens on him and he'll semi-yelp because he decided to try to dart ahead of me.. but he'll turn around into a more comfortable distance and he'll sit down or start walking next to me again. is this something he's just going to have to understand in time and should i just shrug off his yelping?
04-11-2014 09:57 PM
LuvMyDog_Worldwide If the dog doesn't like collars being put on then a 2.25mm prong could be too harsh for a correction. I'd also suggest a second opinion from a different trainer.
04-11-2014 08:36 PM
Liz&Anna I have a petco brand prong and an hs. They both work exactly the same. Chances are your frustrated and the dog knows it, and it's creating tension during the walk. The pup could be under exercised as well which will create an even bigger monster on walks. When Anna was learning (on her prong) she had good days and bad days, it's important that no matter what happens you stay consistent and keep trying.

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04-11-2014 08:26 PM
Jlmaiorana Called Leeburg to order a HS. They suggested a 2.5mm prong small collar. I also ordered the dominant dog collar for backup. Also got the prong collar leash. Ill get it tuesday. Cant wait because she pulls like a sled dog without one.
04-11-2014 12:58 PM
I have a similar problem but perhaps to a bit lesser degree

So, I feel for you.

It's very frustrating to have a dog pull and equally frustrating to have to correct the dog so often that neither of you are having any fun on the walks.

At least, in my case I know the drive that's tempting the dog to pull, he just loves to sniff the spots where other dogs pee along the route of our walk. He's identified mailboxes and street signs as the most visited "pee-emporiums" and gravitates towards them during the walks.

If I use a short six ft. leash he's a real pain and I have to walk in the middle of the road to keep him away from the scents. At a minimum I have to walk him with me near the curb and him nearer the center of the road and away from the scents.

But I also use a long-line (military calls them a 360) and sometimes allow him to scent all he likes, taking him back to close heel when an auto comes or when we're crossing a busy street. He does well on those walks and even comes to close heel pretty well. But then, he know he'll be able to go back to scenting in a minute or two once the cars are gone.

I've thought of giving up the long-line entirely. But that would mean going back to both of us not enjoying any aspect of the walk...unless someone else has an idea.

Oh, we don't use prong collars or e-collars; just choke collar.

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