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04-11-2014 04:46 PM
augerk For my shepherd/lab mix I use a gentle leader. It works fantastic!!! It does however take a while for them to get used to because it goes around their snout, but it lets them know you are in control when you walk.


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04-10-2014 09:45 PM
Bequavious
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wyoung2153, for ADULT dogs, I'm all on board with NOT liking a harness (unless it's the no pull type).

But for puppies, a regular flat collar has that same amount of force wrapped right around their poor necks while they figure out the training or when just out for a walk.

Heck, my puppy can pull away on her harness and I have no trouble teaching and holding her and am certainly not getting dragged around. I'll move onto the 'no pull' harness for general getting around when she is bigger/stronger. And if she's 6+ months old and I need to start moving to the prong for classes then I'm fine with that too....


Yes, this! The main purpose for prongs and head halters and front clip harness, etc. is that these tools give the person more leverage over strong dogs. A regular harness gives the dog the most leverage, but with a little pup they're still quite easy to control.

My earlier point about the various collars was simply that a lot of people think a flat collar is the safest option for their strong pulling dog, but it can actually be one of the most damaging.
04-10-2014 09:33 PM
nktigger99 I am doing both.....a regular step in harness and a flat collar. I tried the easy walker and she did not like it.

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04-10-2014 08:16 PM
wyoung2153
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Originally Posted by MaggieRoseLee View Post
wyoung2153, for ADULT dogs, I'm all on board with NOT liking a harness (unless it's the no pull type).

But for puppies, a regular flat collar has that same amount of force wrapped right around their poor necks while they figure out the training or when just out for a walk.

Heck, my puppy can pull away on her harness and I have no trouble teaching and holding her and am certainly not getting dragged around. I'll move onto the 'no pull' harness for general getting around when she is bigger/stronger. And if she's 6+ months old and I need to start moving to the prong for classes then I'm fine with that too....

Definitely can see that actually!

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04-10-2014 08:09 PM
critterlady Zeus is almost 15 weeks old. When I started walking him on the collar instead of the harness he pulled to the point he choked himself a couple times, he doesn't pull as bad now, but still does, he's highly distracted, he loves to chase leaves.

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04-10-2014 06:29 PM
MaggieRoseLee wyoung2153, for ADULT dogs, I'm all on board with NOT liking a harness (unless it's the no pull type).

But for puppies, a regular flat collar has that same amount of force wrapped right around their poor necks while they figure out the training or when just out for a walk.

Heck, my puppy can pull away on her harness and I have no trouble teaching and holding her and am certainly not getting dragged around. I'll move onto the 'no pull' harness for general getting around when she is bigger/stronger. And if she's 6+ months old and I need to start moving to the prong for classes then I'm fine with that too....

04-10-2014 06:26 PM
wyoung2153 I personally am not a fan of the harness for a puller.. because IME it has encouraged the pulling and they tend to have more power with it.

I like flats and prongs. Right now we use both. Before the prong it was a flat and he did moderately well after training with it. Simple stop when pulled until he sat by me and then continue walking, then stop whenhe pulls, repeat.. some aren't that simple and that was SO annoying to do but in the end it worked for us, once he got the idea that he didn't get to pull to go on walks.
04-10-2014 06:18 PM
MaggieRoseLee How old is your puppy?

I only like harnesses on my younger pups and that's whats on Osin now.

Only later when they are too big for me to handle and the 'real' obedience starts do I use a training collar in classes (or when training).

Can be hard on a young pups neck if you use a collar and they are really pulling.

04-10-2014 06:12 PM
Chip18 Check here post 8.
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...allenging.html
04-10-2014 05:43 PM
Serbrider I don't personally because I don't have a puller and I don't live near a pet store where I could easily go buy one in my spare time (could order, but haven't had the need to), but it is a great thing for dogs who try to start pulling, or to avoid the "slip and gone" moves.
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