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|04-10-2014 08:44 PM|
|glowingtoadfly||I was shocked when my breeder got bashed. I really tried to defend her. It made me really sad because I know she works hard and I only came on here to give her good reccomendations. I don't really know enough to have my opinion considered according to some. I feel really sad that people felt the need to put someone's reputation at stake over titles and videos.|
|04-10-2014 05:41 PM|
Originally Posted by RubyTuesday View Post
Originally Posted by John C. View Post
|04-10-2014 11:32 AM|
Ironically, I think in some ways a wide open board would be fairer to breeders. That way, if someone is trashing them or their dogs, they are aware of the accusations and can come on and defend themselves. There's usually two sides to every story and someone with an ax to grind against a particular breeder may well either misrepresent or omit relevant facts.
Of course, you should always take anything posted on the internet with a grain of salt. I think this is particularly true when it comes to dogs. I've owned a half dozen dogs over the last 20 years and loved each and every one of them. My natural inclination is to emphasize all the great qualities each dog possessed. I tend to forget that my beautiful Samoyed was also barky and obedience challenged, our noble and gentle Golden Retriever shook like a leaf and hid under the bed during thunder storms, and my last beloved GSD was not only loyal, intelligent and devoted but also occasionally dog aggressive.
And then there is the other side of the coin - an inexperienced owner who buys a dog for all the wrong reasons, keeps it chained to a tree all day, never trains it or socializes it, and then blames the breeder because it isn't like Rin Tin Tin.
|04-08-2014 12:59 PM|
Carmen, I too prefer open & transparent. I frankly enjoy wide open boards. There have been threads on this board that were nothing more than an extended breeder bash fest despite the 'rules' against breeder bashing. I suspect that I (or the breeder if she knew) could have had em pulled they were *that* egregious, but I never tried b/c I believe a good breeder should be able to take the heat, whether 'deserved' or not. It goes with the territory.
Wide open, Wild West styled boards, often provide insight into people acting their worst, which can be helpful. This board has elected to do it differently which has advantages as well as disadvantages. In my experience, wide open boards have at least an many lying, conniving hypocrites working an agenda behind the scenes as more heavily moderated boards. PMs exist on those boards, too, & are used at least as extensively, often to nefarious purposes. A useful exchange of information & ideas can be tough when a board devolves into who SCREAMS the most & the loudest. Those aren't necessarily the ones most worth listening to & yet it can be hard to 'hear' others over their racket.
|04-08-2014 12:24 PM|
|carmspack||I like things to be open and transparent .|
|04-08-2014 12:12 PM|
There really is no substitute for buyers knowing very clearly what they want, what they need, why particular qualities are important & seeking breeders who consistently produce dogs who embody those qualities. I am stunned at people who change their opinions in a nano sec based solely on internet info.
|04-08-2014 10:01 AM|
the problem with forum type PM's is that the comments are not scrutinized for veracity and protected by the cloak of anonymity .
if you want to find out about a breeder , contact them and ask them to provide you with a list of an entire litters buyers . Pick a litter randomly. Example in 2012 they had a litter and there were 5 pups. Get the contact information of the buyers of those 5 pups and ask them . If there is a particular combination that you are interested in then get the data for dogs sold with those dogs and ask.
A breeder should be proud of what they are putting out.
|04-08-2014 09:15 AM|
Originally Posted by talihawk View Post
|04-08-2014 09:04 AM|
|martemchik||Yeah, if anyone has bad ones they'll usually PM them to you.|
|04-08-2014 02:03 AM|
|talihawk||Great thank you! Is this the proper board to ask for folks experiences?|
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