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04-05-2014 08:42 AM
Baillif I guess what I should say is yeah the dog should know and learn the behaviors but that's not what you should really be looking at right now. You need to be watching for

1. Is my dog engaged at all times. Is he really with me?
2. Is he having fun? He should be excited like he's playing n
3. If another dog was to show up or another person would my dog stop to check them out or would he blow them off to stay with me?

Too much focus is on give command get result.
04-05-2014 08:27 AM
Baillif At some point I'll send you a marker training puppy video. You'll see how to keep a really young puppy engaged off leash for minutes despite the fact they have the attention spans of gnats. The biggest thing to remember is your rate of reinforcement for any kind of learning has to start really high. Otherwise they get bored or want to check out on you. The other thing is what David already mentioned. Make the reward an event. Food should be treated like a toy. Make them chase it down.

These days especially with puppies I tend to really free the emotions now. Success especially when they are learning is really celebrated. I mean really celebrated. High pitched shrieks and all. You've got to be whatever or whoever the dog needs you to be to put some energy and emotion into whatever they do.

It's kind of like being a slot machine in Vegas. When you first come in the door of a casino the brightest loudest machines with the flashing lights and most frequent payouts are near the doors as soon as you come in. They suck you in. They get you addicted and then next thing you know the kids aren't going to college. You have to become that. In the end the dog is doing repetitive motions. Like a person pulling a slot machine lever. It's a boring activity. What makes it fun is the lights the sounds and the noises and the fact you don't know what's coming. Is the next pull going to be the big payout!? Maybe the next one!?
04-05-2014 02:45 AM
Zeeva You two look very serious and focused. I guess I agree with; maybe a little more enthusiasm and maybe tossing the treats rather than dropping them on the ground...

It's funny I made a video today too c:
04-04-2014 09:48 PM
wyoung2153 Thanks
04-04-2014 08:33 PM
David Winners You are definitely in the right direction!
04-04-2014 08:27 PM
wyoung2153 Haha now I feel the need to post a better video where I'm more excited with him.. usually we are at least a BIT more animated, just got home and wanted to get the video done while I had the motivation and it was about to start raining.. not good for the laptop, lol... we're not to Baillifs level yet but.. I PROMISE we have more fun, LOL.. it's also much more exciting with his toy.. LOVES that frisbee. I may start incorporating that more than I do already.

Thank you for the great tips.. I really appreciate it. Gives me at least a little more confidence that I'm in the right direction.

So funny how someone can be so confident in one area of their life and less so in another
04-04-2014 07:54 PM
David Winners You guys are having fun together! It looks like you have a good relationship

I would recommend being much more animated in training. Make each reward a little event and keep him spun up and having fun. I tend to think of it like a play session, energy wise, with some OB training mixed in. When you mark a behavior, think BANG in your head and explode with some energy, always after the mark though. You can use the food like a toy by making it move and it will make the reward value greater.

When luring the AF, I would give the verbal separately from the lure. If you do the two at the same time it will take him much longer to fade the lure. Say AF, wait a half second, then lure. This also gives you a window to let him respond without the lure. As long as the lure comes within a second of the command, he will pair them.

If he knows DOWN, and you are trying to add AF, just say AF before DOWN through lots of reps and then remove the DOWN. He will learn that AF precedes DOWN and will begin to respond to the Dutch command before the english.

Good tip from Boomer about not dropping food. It takes the steam out of the training session while the dog hunts around for it.

Here's a great video from Baillif showing a short OB session.
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ml#post4492969
04-04-2014 07:30 PM
wyoung2153
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Nah I'm just a little jealous your dog has enough food drive to train outside. My dog? forget it unless we're in the boring living room lol. I prefer toys though. I'm also too self conscious to post vids to the public here, you guys did a good job though.

PS I know that feeling!!! We got her tug stuck in a tree last week. My bf and I found a belt in the house, some how built some contraption of a mop and a broom stuck together with a hanger attached to the end as a hook..then we stood on a table and fished it out of the tree lol some crazy 10 foot pole thing
My first thought was OH my BF can get that.. then realized he is on a business trip for a few.. he will have to wait.

And oddly enough.. he only recently go food motivated.. he has always been a tough guy with treats.. picky picky picky! lol
04-04-2014 07:28 PM
wyoung2153 Boomer11: Valid point. I think that was me knowing I was being videoed, lol. Sorry.

Also, may be fun to show training with his frisbee or ball... it is MUCH different energy.
04-04-2014 07:27 PM
mego
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I have done both.. we switch it up.. today was food, just because it was a quick decision to grab a handful and make the video. I wasn't going to post the video.. only because I am super self conscious when it comes to training.. I don't feel I'm the best, but I sent it to someone else and figured what the heck, lol.

So in short.. he does train with that too, lol. He lives for it, which is why i like to switch it up.

Bad mom award goes to me... when after I cut the video I threw on top of that shed in the video and can't get it down
Nah I'm just a little jealous your dog has enough food drive to train outside. My dog? forget it unless we're in the boring living room lol. I prefer toys though. I'm also too self conscious to post vids to the public here, you guys did a good job though.

PS I know that feeling!!! We got her tug stuck in a tree last week. My bf and I found a belt in the house, some how built some contraption of a mop and a broom stuck together with a hanger attached to the end as a hook..then we stood on a table and fished it out of the tree lol some crazy 10 foot pole thing
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