German Shepherd Dog Forums - Reply to Topic

Increase font size: 0, 10, 25, 50%

GermanShepherds.com is the premier German Shepherd Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Thread: Vicious attack while on leash Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Trackback
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces):
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
04-03-2014 01:19 PM
Kaimeju
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoukieBear View Post
Thanks to all that had something helpful to say.

Pepper spray/bear spray is illegal here, and a gun is out of the question, I am Canadian after all. 

Thank you for all the links and book suggestions, I have a lot of reading to do this week, as well as looking into training classes. I've contacted the GSD Club here in the city for more info. I know they have regular meetings, and I'm sure they also have regular training sessions as well, or at least can point me in the right direction.

Good night!
My tracking instructor carries a can of spray paint with her. Then she calls animal control and lets them know if anyone calls about a crazy lady spray painting their dog, that’s the dog that tried to attack her. I’m not sure what kind of paint she uses that isn’t toxic, but I found that anecdote amusing. She is incredibly protective of her dogs and I think that is commendable. Plus, I’m sure the owners find it much more annoying because of the cleanup than the dog does, and the owners are really the ones at fault.

The advice given “walk your dog where it’s safe and there aren’t any loose dogs” is logical, but not always realistic. I have tried so many times to find a safe place to walk my dog, and always there are surprises. I am certain that the reason she is still dog aggressive (but only to off-leash dogs, at this point) is because I have been completely unable to control her environment. I have tried the wilderness, I have tried busy downtown areas, I have tried quiet neighborhoods, parks, hospital complexes, you name it. There is always some jag off who thinks their dog doesn’t “need” a leash because they’re a “good dog.” Just last night we had a lovely walk in what I thought was a safe area, and encountered a loose hound in a parking lot on the way back.

I also think it’s very rude to assume that just because we don’t all have lightning quick reflexes and don’t carry a glock that we’re a bunch of desexed ninnies. I have jumped in front of my dog yelling and waving my arms and throwing rocks to keep charging dogs away from her. There are many situations where this will not help: if there are two dogs, if the dog comes silently from behind, if the dog comes out of a vehicle. You may think that this is out of the ordinary, but all of these things have happened to me.

All you can really do is the best you can. It’s not your fault and you’re not a coward for experiencing a bad situation due to other people’s lack of good judgment. Now that you know it’s a problem, life is going to be different from what you had hoped. Sad, but true. Hopefully you can find your dog’s strengths and focus on exercising those. You said he was good with people- maybe that is something you can work to your advantage. There won’t be as many loose dogs in areas where it is truly crowded.

I do think that joining a training club is an excellent idea. Training has been the best thing that ever happened to us and it is usually more than enough mental stimulation to suffice. We joined a tracking group because it allowed us to be outdoors. This is an excellent sport for reactive dogs. You will have the opportunity to work alone, and you will also have a supportive team of people to watch the area for loose dogs and alert you to potential problems. I have actually chased loose dogs away for other people so that their sessions would not be disturbed. A bonus is that my dog now understands that dogs who are leashed are not a threat. She has gone from barking and lunging at any dog that came within 20 ft of her to being able to walk in a group with other dogs and doing distance down-stays in a room with other dogs in class. There is something to the “walking is not all it’s cracked up to be” sentiment. If you can find safe, convenient ways to get in exercise and training besides going for walks, I would do that. Walks are great but they are not great if they aren’t safe.
04-03-2014 01:03 PM
Gretchen
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoukieBear View Post
Last night's walk wasn't so great. We came across a small yappy dog that kept lunging and snarling our way while it's owner just laughed at how cute it was that it wanted to play with the big dog.

Our dog went stupid, and hubby littleraly had to walk him on his tip toes past yappy lunging dog. We couldn't distract him with anything, and he was no longer listening to any type of command.

I've talked to several trainers today over the phone and explained our situation. I found one that I really liked! It's a duo trainer team, one to train the dog, and the other to train us. They have an unlimited number of training sessions for one flat fee, and also have a satisfaction guaruntee.

They come to OUR house, and other places (ie: walks and the forrest) to work on our issues.

Both are certified trainers and behavioral therapists. I'm looking forward to starting our training, because this certainly needs to be corrected before it gets any worse.
This sounds perfect for your situation. We did a lot of group training classes, but probably the most meaningful training was just 2 private lessons in our neighborhood so the trainer could see real life situations.

Your dog is still very new to you, but I think over time and with the help of the trainer, you will learn to be more assertive which might prevent some of these dogs irritating you.
04-03-2014 12:54 PM
PoukieBear
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
You're very lucky to have this great dog! Darn it all, you missed the landshark phase
LOL, and I'm totally OK with that!
04-03-2014 12:53 PM
Msmaria
Quote:
Originally Posted by PoukieBear View Post
Last night's walk wasn't so great. We came across a small yappy dog that kept lunging and snarling our way while it's owner just laughed at how cute it was that it wanted to play with the big dog.

Our dog went stupid, and hubby littleraly had to walk him on his tip toes past yappy lunging dog. We couldn't distract him with anything, and he was no longer listening to any type of command.

I've talked to several trainers today over the phone and explained our situation. I found one that I really liked! It's a duo trainer team, one to train the dog, and the other to train us. They have an unlimited number of training sessions for one flat fee, and also have a satisfaction guaruntee.

They come to OUR house, and other places (ie: walks and the forrest) to work on our issues.

Both are certified trainers and behavioral therapists. I'm looking forward to starting our training, because this certainly needs to be corrected before it gets any worse.
thats great news..the trainers not the little dog..haha. Good luck with your guy. I am so sorry you have had to go through this because of irresponsible owners.
04-03-2014 12:45 PM
Blanketback You're very lucky to have this great dog! Darn it all, you missed the landshark phase
04-03-2014 12:42 PM
PoukieBear
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
I feel bad that you have so many thoughtless owners around you. Good luck with the trainers, that should really help. Do they have their own dog to assist with this? Because it will be Murphy's Law that no dogs are out there when they show up, don't you just know it, lol.
Yes, they do have a couple of thier own dogs, but won't introduce them until they do an initial assesment. Smart on thier part, not putting them in any type of danger until they know what they are dealing with.

Not only will the DA be addressed, I've asked for help on loose leash walking.

Other than that, he's a dream to have. He doesn't jump, doesn't bark, doesn't get on furniture or counter surf, not food or toy possesive.
04-03-2014 12:35 PM
Blanketback I feel bad that you have so many thoughtless owners around you. Good luck with the trainers, that should really help. Do they have their own dog to assist with this? Because it will be Murphy's Law that no dogs are out there when they show up, don't you just know it, lol.
04-03-2014 12:31 PM
Chip18 No harm in seeking help and yes train you and the dogie! Let Us know how it goes. And yes some owners are just flat out A Holes!

Now imagine a whole dog park full of them!
04-03-2014 12:25 PM
PoukieBear Last night's walk wasn't so great. We came across a small yappy dog that kept lunging and snarling our way while it's owner just laughed at how cute it was that it wanted to play with the big dog.

Our dog went stupid, and hubby littleraly had to walk him on his tip toes past yappy lunging dog. We couldn't distract him with anything, and he was no longer listening to any type of command.

I've talked to several trainers today over the phone and explained our situation. I found one that I really liked! It's a duo trainer team, one to train the dog, and the other to train us. They have an unlimited number of training sessions for one flat fee, and also have a satisfaction guaruntee.

They come to OUR house, and other places (ie: walks and the forrest) to work on our issues.

Both are certified trainers and behavioral therapists. I'm looking forward to starting our training, because this certainly needs to be corrected before it gets any worse.
04-02-2014 03:53 PM
Chip18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenhwyfair View Post
To the OP.

In the other thread Chip linked here, I kind of like the umbrella idea.

*Most* dogs are going to freak out if you point one of those 'tote' umbrellas that suddenly extend and fling themselves open.

Just desensitize your dog first.

Last time I got charged by two dogs when Ilda was still a puppy, was when I was walking along the sidewalk and a neighbor opened his garage door at that moment. A full grown large size boxer and pittie of course ducked under the door as it slowly rose and charged full blast across the street at me and Ilda.

I didn't have anything on me so I just quickly put myself between Ilda and the dogs and yelled "Get back" in my best, loudest, growliest voice, puffed myself up and luckily it stopped them from getting close to Ilda until the owners came out and got them.
Sounds like an ambush to me? But yeah I look for "open" garage doors..never saw the opening garage door thing..(thanks for the heads up) and people in their front yards, children running around and I always look back and scan ahead.

Just a relaxing walk in the neighborhood.
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:48 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com