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04-01-2014 10:45 PM
onyx'girl Keep on researching~different lines working or training.
If they have that many puppies available so often you'll likely be in the running whenever you decide to get a pup(but by then you may decide on a diffferent type of breeder or line all together after you see what you really want or really don't want)
04-01-2014 10:36 PM
Emdog Thanks everyone. They both have good reputations but it seemed to me that the pups could possibly miss out on some attention because of so many simultaneously. I did not know if it was common... And i am probably over analizing my decision to get their pup.
03-31-2014 12:57 PM
mjta I personally have no issues with it *if* the dogs have health clearances, working titles, and get interaction and exercise.

My puppy is from a larger kennel with a great reputation. I got to visit on three separate occasions and talk to the breeder and visit with her dogs. The dogs were all very happy and were rotated in the house. The females who had litters were kept in the house for the first few weeks of the puppies lives.

I know operations like this are rare, but I had no hesitation with supporting this kennel and am very happy with my puppy. My breeder is Schraderhaus BTW
03-31-2014 12:29 AM
selzer The only way that might be ok, is if they have their bitches living in homes, and they have breeding rights. So the bitch's co-owners will have the litter and raise the puppies. But the co-owner then works with the person that has the website and breeding program.

I can imagine that show-breeders would do this. Place their best bitches in homes they know show, and are willing to raise litters. If they are very respectable, they could have people lining up to co-own with them.

If they are having 10 litters on the ground at once out of one location, that would be flat out crazy.
03-30-2014 08:47 PM
Kayos and Havoc I would look elsewhere. I wonder if I know this breeder since I used to live out that way? You can PM me to ask.
03-30-2014 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by dawnandjr View Post
I believe a majority cater to the working dog buyers (police, security).
There is absolutely no way that the majority of commercial breeding operations in the U.S. are selling working dogs to knowledgeable buyers.

I don't doubt there are a few commercial breeder/brokers doing it, and doing it to a very high standard; I could name a couple. But they are a tiny, tiny minority compared to the commercial kennels churning out puppies for the pet market and less-educated "working" buyers.

AKC reports and USDA inspections will only tell you if it's the absolute worst type of puppy mill and has been busted as such. If the operation is one of the gleaming, sterile, soulless commercial kennels that looks all nice and shiny on the surface and does not care a fig for the dogs beyond how much money they generate, there will be nothing in either of those organizations to tell you so.
03-30-2014 07:53 PM
wolfstraum Commercial Kennel. Puppy factory. No one person can possibly care for and assess that many puppies and find GOOD homes for them. If you follow some of these places, females are bred over and over, every heat and then when they cannot produce ....????? who knows. I do not believe that these types of facilities have the good of the breed, the good of the brood bitch or the good of the puppy as a high priority. Their priority is the bottom line on their ledger sheet.

03-30-2014 05:43 PM
vomlittlehaus Commercial kennels are in it for the money. Its a business that must make a profit or it will not keep going. They would have paid staff. Fidelco Guide Dog foundation is no different. They have paid staff, puppies raised in sterile environments, planned breedings from healthy dogs. I'm sure any one of us would love to get a drop out from a program like that. Be sure to do more research on each breeding facility. Talk with puppy buyers. What market do they cater to? I believe a majority cater to the working dog buyers (police, security). Those are usually housed in kennels anyway, but not always. As long as their goal in a particular breeding is what you are looking for, then I dont see a problem. Most of these facilities are inspected on a regular basis. See if you can find inspection reports and/or check with AKC (if in USA) for any problems.
03-30-2014 02:53 PM
Lauri & The Gang I want to know how the breeder can work with and socialize all those puppies. How can they evaluate each puppy and know what would be the best home for them.

If they are relying on their 'staff' to do the work then I don't consider them a breeder - I would call them a puppy producer and that they are only in it for the money.
03-30-2014 02:37 PM
Merciel I agree with the consensus: personally, and for the same reasons Freestep and others articulated, I would pass.

For a number of reasons, I'm not a fan of commercial breeding and not inclined to support that type of operation.
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