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07-19-2014 01:01 AM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Longfisher View Post
A trainer said that the most important thing was to not allow the dog to have a bad session with me or anyone in the family. Essentially, the trainer said, "Don't let your frustrations go down the leash".
That is great advise!

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I didn't really adjust to that advice and still used loudly shouted and angry commands when the dog didn't obey or I gave him hard corrections, etc., etc., etc. Over time I learned that tenderness, an even and non-threatening tone, persistence but not insistence, structure, repetition and, above all, rewards (praise plus treats) won over his loyalty, friendship and following.
Yep had a Boxer/Mix! Can you say fold like an umbrella! A harsh "SIT" shut him right down???

"Sit" worked much better so I changed. Now I try and out think my dog! Works much better!
07-18-2014 05:33 PM
Longfisher
I would like to add one thing.

My Zeus was not necessarily fearful of me or anyone in the family when he was younger. But he was distrustful of us about certain things that were unfamiliar to him at that time...like the vacuum, baths, taking oral medications, ear drops, brushing his teeth and to some extent even just being affectionate and touching him (he still hates anyone touching his anus).

A trainer said that the most important thing was to not allow the dog to have a bad session with me or anyone in the family. Essentially, the trainer said, "Don't let your frustrations go down the leash".

I didn't really adjust to that advice and still used loudly shouted and angry commands when the dog didn't obey or I gave him hard corrections, etc., etc., etc. Over time I learned that tenderness, an even and non-threatening tone, persistence but not insistence, structure, repetition and, above all, rewards (praise plus treats) won over his loyalty, friendship and following.

He's really a great dog now. And, I'm glad I had a change of heart and methods mid-stream. I'm sure if you just keep your cool at all times, make every encounter positive, care for and protect your dog and work hard it'll all work out.

GSDs are smart enough to learn good behavior even when they're mid-life. You're no where near that period.

LF
07-18-2014 05:06 PM
Chip18 Hmm I link this thread alot but haven't actually read it myself in awhile!

Gonna add a couple more links that have some useful info for dogs in general and those with "issues' especially.

Post 19 links to an essay that explains in detail about "Sit on Dog" and post 39 shows what it looks like:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ing-dog-4.html

I never did the Sit on Dog with my guys (in retro spec) I should have done it with my GSD but did not know about it the time of my GSD's "issues."

Did do it with a fearful Boxer at rescue and I was stunned at how settled down he became! I did it pretty much like the YouTube clip in post 39.

And The Place command:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIGq_5r0DeE



The Place Command I never did either. I did "go to bed," that works kinda, OK at home but it's meaningless anywhere else..."where is bed???"

My Bully guys (who loved people) would go to bed but they would wiggle and whine until I released them to greet people! Not exactly what I was looking for.

I think the place command what have proved much more useful! Live and learn.
04-27-2014 03:31 PM
middleofnowhere Alternatively, you mentioned she was ball obsessed... Put a name on crating up (I have a different word for each dog) and reward. Toss the ball in the crate, name it when she goes in after it, let her bring it out and play with her and the ball.
Then I'd transition to treats but crating always will get a reward. I have a food obsessed youngster. Crating up was the EASIEST thing for me to teach - If I could only make other behaviors that easily understood, I swear that pup would stand on her head and howl the star spangled banner on key for a treat. (And with her kibble is a very fine treat.)
Toy rewards are much easier for me. Unfortunately, my youngster is less interested in them.
04-27-2014 02:07 PM
pyratemom
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I bought Kali a rubber ball on the way home, and I played with her with it for the first time today for a few minutes. She loves chasing the ball, and she brings it right back to me every time. As soon as the ball comes out, she goes from being what looks like a horribly untrained dog to being a very well trained dog. I may be able to use the ball as a treat for training. The only thing I have tried to train her to do so far is to go into her crate when I let her inside, and I have been using a handful of dry cat food for that.
Get some super yummy dog treats - liver is great, so are hot dogs. Cat food can have a lot of filler that isn't good.
04-17-2014 10:59 AM
Clancy_Wiggum About three weeks along, and I think Kali has made progress. She doesn't jump up any more. Walking on leash is getting a lot better; when I got her she would just drag a person behind her. She's a natural at 'sit.' Lay down, speak, and stay are all coming along.

What still needs a lot of improvement is her socialization with other dogs. I have had her around a 4 m/o female boxer pup and a 7 m/o lab mix, and she wants to kill both of them. She goes nuts in the crate when the boxer is in my house.

She can also be disobedient in an intelligent way. She doesn't like being in the yard by herself, so she won't go outside for me in the morning. I play tug with her in my computer room; she likes to go in there and not come out. I get to have her with me most of the day, but I still have to crate her for short periods during the day, and she won't come to me at the crate to put her up.

And it would be nice to be able to leave her in the backyard without her barking constantly at everything, but I'm not sure that is going to happen.

Her drive and energy level are just intense.
04-04-2014 04:39 PM
Clancy_Wiggum
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Get a ball on string and start tugging with her! She may love to tug as well, let her win often so her confidence level builds.
You're right, she does!
04-04-2014 05:22 AM
Sri
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Hi, I'm brand new to this forum. I have no clue how to post a question. Any help would be awesome! TIA!!!

Hope you figured out. Or else just click on forums choose appropriate topic , then subtopic, then click on 'New Thread'.


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04-01-2014 08:27 PM
onyx'girl Get a ball on string and start tugging with her! She may love to tug as well, let her win often so her confidence level builds.
04-01-2014 08:22 PM
Clancy_Wiggum I bought Kali a rubber ball on the way home, and I played with her with it for the first time today for a few minutes. She loves chasing the ball, and she brings it right back to me every time. As soon as the ball comes out, she goes from being what looks like a horribly untrained dog to being a very well trained dog. I may be able to use the ball as a treat for training. The only thing I have tried to train her to do so far is to go into her crate when I let her inside, and I have been using a handful of dry cat food for that.
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