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04-01-2014 07:28 AM
blackshep It's funny. I am a 'pet home' and a first time GSD owner. The breeder has expressed how happy she is that I took a pup from her. I ended up working my dog more than I thought I would, and am 2/3 or the way to our very first title ever and I take my dog everywhere with me. So I think it worked out really well for everyone.

Another pup went to a 'working home' with a person who was a cop/K9 trainer, who lost their job due to some family drama and is now financially, and quite frankly, mentally unstable, so...so much for the working home. lol
04-01-2014 06:56 AM
Wolfenstein
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It fascinates me that breeders can tell so much about a puppy's drive so early. Does anyone know of a YouTube video demonstrating low vs high drive pups?

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I don't know of any videos showing pups with lower drives, but I've always loved this one with a high drive puppy, haha!


If you think about the fact that breeders really spend at least 2 months watching the puppies grow, it makes sense that they'd be able to see their inherent personalities shining through by the time they're picking homes. You can tell the difference between dogs that are going to seem battery charged vs the ones that will just lay down and check out the room. The ones who will stand up to anything, running up to greet a strange noise, the ones who will be fine just looking to see what it is, and the ones who shy away. The ones who already show prey drive and a desire to bite and a pup who might show some interest, but lose it easily.

These beginnings are really important when it comes to picking the ideal home. Like others have said, it's not only about making sure people don't have more dog than they can handle, it's about the puppy becoming the best it can be. Genetics will only get you so far, it takes the right person and situation to bring out the potential the dog has. Just like a high drive puppy wouldn't be satisfied to lay around a house all day, a lower drive dog wouldn't work out in a sport home because it would take too much coaxing when it comes to training. Sure, you can train any dog decently far, but is the dog really enjoying itself?

I think I went on a bit of a tangent, it's not even 6am, I don't think I'm quite awake yet, haha! I just think all of this stuff is so interesting.
03-29-2014 05:43 PM
Smithie86
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You also have to look at the breeder and the lines. Some use this disclaimer as a sales tactic only especially when the whole litter is advertised as such. But then there are highly accomplished breeders like Sue who when uses this disclaimer, it better be believed or can cause a train wreck

What the breeder is looking for is that the person who wants to take that pup home has access to the right training resources and experience needed to make it a win/win situation. Without the training resources and experience what can happen is,

a) A dog with high potential gets wasted
b) Someone can get seriously hurt
Thank you, but clarification. Breeder who is accomplished is Gabor (husband). . I continue to learn, research, train :-)
03-29-2014 04:32 PM
mego Just to clarify, I know that it's individual per breeder or even per puppy, just wanted a discussion about it and yes, already seen a bunch of different replies of what you guys take it to mean...
much like some people take pet to mean different things, it's interesting that 'working dog' means so many more things too to different people
03-29-2014 04:28 PM
Shade In Delgado's litter was a PD prospect, the sire of the litter is an active PD in Edmonton and the pup would be joining the same program. I spent many hours over a few visits watching the litter and that particular pup was always the loudest, pushiest, independant but in your face pup - even at 3 weeks when most of the pups were still fat sausages more interested in eating or sleeping, he never stopped or shut up. He wasn't the biggest or 'meanest' but he stood out literally every moment.

I turned to Melanie (the breeder) at 5 weeks and told her outright, "I love all the puppies and don't care which one I get, but not Lance" She laughed and reassured me that he had already been singled out as the PD prospect. I liked him, he was a good pup but there was no way he would be happy in a quiet home just playing fetch lol
03-29-2014 04:06 PM
Sunflowers
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Haha. Joe Pesci looks like he should be dragging an anchor around to slow him up.

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Doesn't he, though?
Clear case of a picture being worth 1,000 words.

I am willing to bet Pesci is in the military or police, somewhere.

Glad I got the dog I did get. If Hans was considered low(er) drive, I don't know what I would have done with Pesci!
03-29-2014 04:03 PM
Curtis
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Take a look at the facial expression. These pups are 4 weeks old.
Crazy high drive nutter (I called him Joe Pesci)
Haha. Joe Pesci looks like he should be dragging an anchor around to slow him up.

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03-29-2014 03:56 PM
Sunflowers
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It fascinates me that breeders can tell so much about a puppy's drive so early.

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I asked Robin, the breeder, how she can tell.
She told me about Hans's brother.

She was trying to photograph the pups, placing each of them on a couch. By the time she reached around to grab her camera, he was already in her face. This happened several times. She said she would never sell me that puppy.

Take a look at the facial expression. These pups are 4 weeks old.
Crazy high drive nutter (I called him Joe Pesci): top.
Hans : bottom



03-29-2014 03:40 PM
Wild Wolf Most breeders want their best pups to be in homes that work the dog so they can prove the quality of the breeding stock via their successful, thoroughly tested progeny. I think it is also a good warning label that it may be "too much dog" for the average pet owner, and would do best in a home with an experienced handler that has the tools (experience, clubs, equipment, etc) to have a successful partnership and life with the "working home only" puppy.
03-29-2014 03:14 PM
Packen You also have to look at the breeder and the lines. Some use this disclaimer as a sales tactic only especially when the whole litter is advertised as such. But then there are highly accomplished breeders like Sue who when uses this disclaimer, it better be believed or can cause a train wreck

What the breeder is looking for is that the person who wants to take that pup home has access to the right training resources and experience needed to make it a win/win situation. Without the training resources and experience what can happen is,

a) A dog with high potential gets wasted
b) Someone can get seriously hurt
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