|04-02-2014 08:15 PM|
I waffle back and forth on the grain free vs grains.
Right now all three of the GSDs are on Fromm's Four-Star Chicken À La Veg. It's not one of the grain free foods. Protein is 24% and fat is 15%. They like it. I add Tripett canned tripe, fish oil and coconut oil. Everyone's weight is good. Coats are nice and shiny. Sage occasionally gets itchy, but I'm pretty sure that it's environmental.
|04-02-2014 08:00 PM|
Count me in the "grain-free is a fad" bandwagon. So many of the claims advertised by makers of grain-free dog food are identical to those presented by raw food. Smaller stool, shinier coat, better energy, fewer allergic reactions, well who wouldn't want that? But I don't think swapping rice for potatoes will do that for you. Potatoes and peas are not magically more biologically appropriate for dogs than grain, and the grains in dog food are heat-processed to make them easier to digest anyway. Grain-free won't do anything for your dog if your dog is allergic to potatoes and peas instead of corn gluten.
I haven't found a food I am completely satisfied with yet. My dog has had problems with both kibble and raw. I try to keep the protein content above 28% and carbs at around 35-40% for kibble. I have always fed her grain-free because I had read that corn and wheat cause allergies, but again, allergies are difficult to diagnose. I have done the home-cooked rice and turkey thing when she has had diarrhea and it was very successful, so it wouldn't surprise me that many dogs do well on chicken and rice kibbles. It seems to be a common suggestion for dogs (and kids) with upset tummies.
I also can't afford to feed Fromm or Orijen, so I'm unaware if I'm missing out.
|04-02-2014 04:21 PM|
Here is a lengthy thread on bloat to get you started:
|04-02-2014 04:16 PM|
I started my dog out on salmon and sweet potato grain-free kibble, but he's actually been doing the best on chicken and rice. So many people will advocate for grain free foods, and caution to stay away from proteins like chicken and beef. But chicken and rice are what's working for MY dog, and as long as he's sleek and sassy, I'm happy.
|04-02-2014 02:27 PM|
|Daisy&Lucky's Mom||Just started Grain Free BB Wilderness Chicken. Lucky tolerates everything. Thunder after the first week adjusted fine. Chevy we are still having some soft stools. I really think Im going back to BB Chicken and rice. Everyone ate it w/ no problems. . I fed Diamond Select Lamb & Rice to Daisy and Lucky until the recall issues. They never had a prblem on it from a digestive standpoint. My dogs have always gotten beef and chicken and some pasta. Chevy and Thunder are more difficult to manage w/ diet but thats probably b/c I havent had them since puppyhood.|
|04-02-2014 02:17 PM|
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|03-30-2014 11:00 PM|
|llombardo||Mine were on Fromm for a long time and one of them got sick enough to go to the vet, then the second one got sick and I tossed the food. Not sure if it was the food, but I've had no problems since I switched them. They are on a grain free, salmon and sweet potato food and all are doing very well. The protein and fat are not as high as the Fromm was. I think finding that balance is pretty important. I also stay away from chicken, wheat, and corn.|
|03-30-2014 09:12 PM|
Honestly, I have had better results with dog food with grain than with potatoes. We did ok with TOTW but after the total lack of responsiveness of the company to a rank bag before the last Diamond recall I wrote them off. They told me the food was fine. My dog told me it was not. My nose told me it was not. And about three weeks later that lot was recalled.
I also stay away from corn and wheat. Did well with one with millet, but I want to bring in some more variety and am trying one with beans instead of potatoes..not really causing any gas problems..... Carbs are carbs anyway you cut it. Some grains have gluten and THAT can be a source of problem. I would love to be in a position to put together a proper raw diet with some variety.
|03-30-2014 09:05 PM|
Grain free at year for my dogs. I feed Fromm LBP at a year may go to grain free.
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|03-27-2014 01:51 PM|
Totally agree. I think a lot of people see grainfree and think the food is 100% meat and don't realize the rice is replaced with potato. I don't see any difference in the two. (just stay away from corn and make sure there is a high content of meat)
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