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04-09-2014 09:33 PM
lorihd@comcast.net I didn't realize how many groomers are on this board. Cant say I envy your line of work, I like all my appendages, lol
04-09-2014 10:21 AM
Anubis_Star Now granted I've probably met 5 or 6 in my life, but I have yet to meet a nice one. They've all been very nasty and aggressive. And it's not fear aggression. It's "don't mess with me, I do what I want!"

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04-09-2014 09:32 AM
GSDBriard Those punctures can be worse than a bloody bite for sure! One of my bad bites was a cockapoo and the poor thing had a seizure so I can't really fault the dog. He was neurotic but was never a biter. When I called the owner to tell them about the seizure they told me they should have probably mentioned he had that problem occasionally... yeah, that would have been nice.

He got both me and a co-worker who tried to come assist. My bite was an accident, hers was just stupid. She ran up and tried to put a slip leash on the dog while he was seizing and she got bit as well.
04-09-2014 12:46 AM
dogfaeries
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The only dog that ever bit me twice was a Lhasa. The two bites were years apart. I thought we'd come to an understanding, but he was one of those dogs that was super stoic, up to a point...and should you inadvertently go past that point, he would instantly nail you. No warning, no look, no growl, just a lightning quick and decisive bite. He was like a Ninja.

Other Lhasas I've groomed have been great, but that particular one was not of unusual temperament


Same thing with the Lhasa that bit me. He was so matted that he was felted, and I shaved him off with a 15. Took forever. Not a peep out of him. I picked up his foot to cut his toenails, and he nailed me. One deep puncture in the top of my hand, and in my palm. I had purple bruising from that one bite clear past my wrist. My hand was swollen twice the size, and I couldn't work for days. We always say if it doesn't bleed, it doesn't count. That one counted.
04-08-2014 10:31 PM
Freestep
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The worst bite I've had in 35+ years of grooming came from a Lhasa.
The only dog that ever bit me twice was a Lhasa. The two bites were years apart. I thought we'd come to an understanding, but he was one of those dogs that was super stoic, up to a point...and should you inadvertently go past that point, he would instantly nail you. No warning, no look, no growl, just a lightning quick and decisive bite. He was like a Ninja.

Other Lhasas I've groomed have been great, but that particular one was not of unusual temperament.

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I think the only breed I flat out wont groom...Akitas. I'm actually okay with Chows but unlike a lot of groomers i've been very lucky and haven't had a mean one yet. I had one Akita go after my arm when I was checking the dog in and just tried to grab the leash from the owner. I just said "nope!" and said it wasn't going to get done. It's just not worth it..my hands and fingers are how I make a living.
I don't groom dogs over 75 lb anymore, so I haven't seen any Akitas lately, but I never had too much trouble with them personally. I was lucky enough to know a few Akitas that were perfect ambassadors for their breed, and they left an impression on me. But they're not a breed I would recommend to most people.
04-08-2014 06:50 PM
SuperG And I thought Briard was a cheese.....


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04-08-2014 06:48 PM
dogfaeries I groom my aunt's pretty little chow, and she is a pain in the rear. She doesn't bite, but she refuses to let me touch her feet. Thankfully I don't have to groom her very often. She's the only chow that I'll groom.

No Akitas. The last Akita in the shop was a 6 month old puppy that was a nutcase, and in later years he bit several children and had to be put down. They don't have a good reputation around our area.

I am fortunate to be able to pick and choose what I want to groom. Being almost 60 yrs old, I just don't have the desire to wrestle with larger dogs anymore. The biggest dog I groom is a labradoodle, and I'm only doing him because he's a sweet dog and I like him. If it takes two of us to get a dog in the tub or on the table, then I won't do them any more! My own dogs are great to work on. Sage is small enough that I can pick her up and put her in the tub, and Carly and Russell will put their front feet on the tub edge so I can shove them in. The girls will jump on a grooming table, and Russell puts his feet up on the table edge and I help him up. He's not neutered, so when I shove his butt up there, I inadvertently give him an "exam"' lol. He usually gives me a dirty look. LOL.
04-08-2014 05:23 PM
GSDBriard That's definitely a good point that your average groomer doesn't see the great quality dogs. Most of the really good Briard owners I know...groom their own (and do a great job of it!) and the ones in show are either groomed at home or by their handler. Most of the ones that come in for grooming are a yearly shave down or a matted mess.

I also groom my dogs half-sister and she's good except for one nail on her foot..but in her defense she got it caught in a doorway as a pup and it bent. I'm sure it's either still sensitive or she just remembers how much pain it caused her. She will wiggle and squirm but still has never tried to bite me even though it has to be uncomfortable for her...but her mom also brings her in to me about once a month...and i've never found a single tangle in her coat!

I think the only breed I flat out wont groom...Akitas. I'm actually okay with Chows but unlike a lot of groomers i've been very lucky and haven't had a mean one yet. I had one Akita go after my arm when I was checking the dog in and just tried to grab the leash from the owner. I just said "nope!" and said it wasn't going to get done. It's just not worth it..my hands and fingers are how I make a living.

I also agree about GSDs...my 2 GSDs are the only good German Shepherds I groom.. they are definitely not an easy breed to groom unless they are used to it and most hate their feet touched...and i'm sure the business owners next door always know when we have Shepherds in the salon. They are noisy!
04-08-2014 12:52 PM
dogfaeries I agree with Freestep. The dogs we see as groomers are overwhelmingly poor quality. It's rare to see a good representative of ANY breed. My personal experience with Briards has been as a groomer, and it wasn't a good one. I just simply refuse to do a huge dog that is trying to hurt me. The worst bite I've had in 35+ years of grooming came from a Lhasa.


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04-08-2014 11:12 AM
Freestep
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It's a real shame the Briard has such a horrible reputation. As a dog groomer if I only judged breeds by grooming I would have to say Shih Tzus and Yorkies are the most dangerous dogs in the entire universe!
Actually, it's Chows. They are the only breed I won't even touch.

The problem we see in pet grooming is that most people don't bother to seek out good breeders and well-bred dogs, so the majority of purebreds that we see are not good representatives of their breed. If I had to judge GSDs based on what I saw in the veterinary profession and in grooming, I wouldn't want one. GSDs have a horrible reputation with pet professionals, simply because most of the GSDs out there are poorly bred, unsocialized, untrained BYB pups with naïve or ignorant owners.

But like I said, if all Briards were like the big male I groomed, I would want one. He was a fabulous dog. I should have asked where the owners got him. When he got old he did suffer from arthritis and had a hard time standing up, but he still let me groom him. The last couple grooms I did on him, he would lie on the floor and let me roll him around as needed, tail thumping. He was always happy, even as a creaky old guy. He was an old soul. I still miss him.
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