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03-30-2014 10:30 AM
Lauri & The Gang I used to teach dog training classes and do private sessions. I still take all of my dogs through at LEAST one group obedience class.

Learning to listen in a strange environment around strangers with their strange dogs is COMPLETELY different from training at home - no matter how many distractions you have there.

Training classes serve two purposes - to teach the human HOW to work with their dog and to give the dog the experience of having to listen to their human in a 'different' environment.
03-30-2014 10:22 AM
EJQ
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Originally Posted by Harry and Lola View Post
I do basic to intermediate OB myself all the time, however I think it is far beneficial for your dog to be in a training environment with other dogs present, all doing the same thing, as this does help your dog learn to be near other dogs, ignore other dogs and assist in building a trust/bond relationship with you. Plus if you intend to trial, your dog will need to be used to being around other dogs.

I also like being trained as the trainer will pick up little things I am doing wrong, things I don't realise I'm doing, so for me classes help both me and my dog.
I have to agree - even though I can, and do, train on my own I prefer to be in an environment that includes other dogs and other people when I am starting either a new puppy or an older dog.
03-30-2014 10:14 AM
holland We aren't doing classes right now but for me classes provide structure and I think I like learning from real people versus videos -just really like the environment and being exposed to different ideas
03-30-2014 10:12 AM
Sri The only reason i go to classes is to train him Around other dogs and people. Its not everyone that wants to approach even a 6 mo th old GSD.

That said, if I had known how to train him to ignore other dogs right from the time we had got him, I would not have needed to take group classes. A good trainer is very valuable though when we see issues we aren't progressing on.


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03-30-2014 10:04 AM
Deno There is no doubt the basics are easy to teach your self.

Even the advanced stuff is not rocket science.

All the information is out there for the person with common sense, the drive and the

right dog.
03-24-2014 05:00 PM
lbriggs When we lived in Ontario, we drove an hour for 2.5+ years to train with someone we really liked (in IPO obedience). Now we're living in very rural Alberta (ie. our nearest neighbour is two miles away) and training with someone isn't a reasonable option for us. We loved training with our trainer in Ontario but we are also really enjoying training on our own. Taking responsibility for your own learning is really empowering and it's really fun to plan how you are going to achieve the picture in your mind. We have a lot of freedom to explore and experiment. We watch videos such as those from Michael Ellis, Joanne Fleming, etc. We take a lot of video, slow the clip down, and watch our handling and the dogs. We also have a lot of experienced online friends in agility, IPO, Mondio, FR, etc. who generously answer our questions. We've learned a ton this year since we've had to reason through every step on our own instead of blindly following along with someone's plan.
03-24-2014 04:28 PM
Chip18
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So you don't socialize your dog's with any other dogs? At all? I know I've seen you mention it before. I will never be the type to take my pup to the dog park or for doggie play dates. I am torn on group puppy class. I see socialization thrown around all the time and I certainly don't want to cause problems by under socializing her but I also wonder how much that is needed if I know for a fact we aren't going to go romp around with other dogs. I just want her to be able to walk around the neighborhood on a leash without being a nutjob.

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Not as such my dogs have been around other dogs only when I am in control. They were taught to ignore other dogs so that is there default position. On two occasions they have encountered a strange dog once was in our back yard???

My guys were in back and Molly herder dog popped over the fence! My guys froze and stared but they didn't move towards her, I got her back home safely.

The second time was when my neighbors piece of crap, yappy dog came into our yard, my guys were on the lawn the dog got by me while I was working on the car. I heard barking (not my guys) and looked up to see the little PIA dog barking in Gunthers face!!!! Gunther just stood and stared at him, he didn't move and Struddell stood behind Gunther.

I chased the little miscreant back home, no problem. So again all my guys don't do dog parks but they don't seem to have issues with dogs that invade there space.

Not really taking a stand on puppy classes and doggy training as such. All I wanted was safe happy family pets. Part of that being not having dog reactive dogs and I was able to achieve that by myself. The Leerburg site, which my GSD lead me to. Was the closest I came to needing outside help but "Who pets my puppy or dog" intelligently applied got me thru that. And I think Rocky turned out better still!
03-22-2014 08:00 AM
JakodaCD OA I do alot of my own training, but I like going to classes in order to proof my training, learn new things, expose my dogs to new environments.

Of course it also depends on the class / trainer as to what I will and won't get into.
I don't like classes where you have 'puppy free for alls', did it once, not my thing at all especially when their is a lack of control.

There is always something new to learn and experience
03-22-2014 07:52 AM
Baillif I'm not big on classes but I will say this.

You can't do it alone as well as you can under someone's wing, assuming that person knows what they are doing. You won't find that at a Petsmart or a petco most likely. I'm not saying it can't happen but it probably won't.

I was really lucky. I emailed Cindy from leerburg wondering if she knew any mondio ring sport trainers in my area and she at first said no but later remembered one that had a facility 15 minutes from where I live. He also just happened to be the only trainer in NC (entire south east not counting Florida) with two true legs of mondio ring 1 and who went to nationals to compete. I learned a lot in private sessions as a client.

He got me started on the right research on my own, of which I did a lot. He told me now that the theory was in place the only thing I needed to do to become a great trainer was train a crap ton of dogs. Obviously I didn't have a crap ton of dogs. He did. He also had a job opening and I despite already having gone to school for something else decided to jump on it and pursue a passion instead. The real learning took place after and still continues to.

There's stuff I learned through him I'd have never come up with or learned on my own. There are nuances to it that need to be coached. I've never seen anyone pick up the leash or a treat pouch and do everything great naturally, although some do come closer than others and some pick it up far faster than others.
03-22-2014 12:51 AM
shepherdmom Where I live the closest dog class is about an hour away and then its a Petsmart thing. For a real dog class it is even further. There are no dog parks close by. (and I wouldn't go even if there were) So I choose to do it myself. I have 4 other dogs and puppy came from a rescue where he was socialized with many dogs. I'm more concerned about him socializing with people. I've been going to the vets office, the tractor supply, another pet store, my daughters house to meet cats... any place I can think of to socialize him. When I lived in town I have done obedience and training classes. What fun! I'm also really intrigued by Baillif's posts about what he does. Wish there was something like that around here.
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