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03-22-2014 06:25 PM
onyx'girl along with having the members of this site give you recommendations on breeders...you should get out and watch the different lines in training. Learning about this breed via the internet isn't enough, you need to see dogs for yourself and then you can see what you really do like and what doesn't interest you.
Find some clubs or trials/shows and go out to watch. Don't rush your search, take the time and learn about the breed, the color of the coat is just the surface.
03-22-2014 04:46 PM
GermanShepherdLoverKing Please local only I can't afforded are shipping thank you
03-22-2014 04:44 PM
GermanShepherdLoverKing My dad just said no Mostly black german shepherds he said Black and Tan classic or white

But thank you for the breeders
03-22-2014 03:53 PM
LoveEcho
Are these breeders good

The thing is, I would be more than willing to guess many of the breeders who use the term have absolutely no idea what it actually means and no knowledge of the history.... Especially not one who says they don't title because they don't want attack dogs.


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The nomenclature "old fashion" is not some new marketing phrase used to sell large German shepherds. The term was first used in the 1930s to describe many of the German shepherds before Klodo von Boxberg was named Sieger. Bloxberg was given the title ( no he didn't earn it, the title was actually decided days before the trial when Stephanitz called a special meeting of the Judges because he knew a very large, and very good dog, a vonBlasienberg dog would take the Title) because Stephanitz wanted a smaller dog to win and Boxberg goes back to his Horand. The Blasienberg, like most of the dogs in the late 1920s were tall, big dogs that were bred by farmers for daily work. Many of the more popular dogs were 27 - 29 inches tall and weighed close to 100 pounds lean. Stephanitz was determined to keep his beloved Horand bloodlines as the main fount for the breed although Horand never worked a day in his life. With the trend of Siegers becoming large dogs, Stephanitz not only titled Boxberg - a nappy looking little dog that had one yellow eye (probably because he was a 'blue' color) and non descript, but he also outlawed registering tall males in the stud book knowing that everyone always wanted to breed to the Sieger. (Some things never change). This change caused many of the breeders to sell off their stock and retire. Most of the Blaisenberg dogs - the same bloodlines that built the breed for 30 years, ended up as the foundation dogs at Fortunate Field, the first Guide Dog kennel in the world. About this same time, those who were still dealing with German shepherds started referring to the "old fashion" dogs - the type of dog that ruled the breed before Boxberg. These dogs were larger, had high thresholds, solid nerves, and slow to attack and bite - the German shepherds that worked all day in the field and slept at night with the family. The German shepherd that maintained a large portion of Swabian bloodlines and little Thuringian. Many were plush coated, tall, and heavy with an outstanding calm temperament and knew what was a real threat.




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03-22-2014 03:51 PM
GermanShepherdLoverKing Does anyone know a german shepherd breeder that breeds classic coats colors the Black and Tan
03-22-2014 03:26 PM
Doc The nomenclature "old fashion" is not some new marketing phrase used to sell large German shepherds. The term was first used in the 1930s to describe many of the German shepherds before Klodo von Boxberg was named Sieger. Bloxberg was given the title ( no he didn't earn it, the title was actually decided days before the trial when Stephanitz called a special meeting of the Judges because he knew a very large, and very good dog, a vonBlasienberg dog would take the Title) because Stephanitz wanted a smaller dog to win and Boxberg goes back to his Horand. The Blasienberg, like most of the dogs in the late 1920s were tall, big dogs that were bred by farmers for daily work. Many of the more popular dogs were 27 - 29 inches tall and weighed close to 100 pounds lean. Stephanitz was determined to keep his beloved Horand bloodlines as the main fount for the breed although Horand never worked a day in his life. With the trend of Siegers becoming large dogs, Stephanitz not only titled Boxberg - a nappy looking little dog that had one yellow eye (probably because he was a 'blue' color) and non descript, but he also outlawed registering tall males in the stud book knowing that everyone always wanted to breed to the Sieger. (Some things never change). This change caused many of the breeders to sell off their stock and retire. Most of the Blaisenberg dogs - the same bloodlines that built the breed for 30 years, ended up as the foundation dogs at Fortunate Field, the first Guide Dog kennel in the world. About this same time, those who were still dealing with German shepherds started referring to the "old fashion" dogs - the type of dog that ruled the breed before Boxberg. These dogs were larger, had high thresholds, solid nerves, and slow to attack and bite - the German shepherds that worked all day in the field and slept at night with the family. The German shepherd that maintained a large portion of Swabian bloodlines and little Thuringian. Many were plush coated, tall, and heavy with an outstanding calm temperament and knew what was a real threat.
03-22-2014 02:08 PM
RubyTuesday
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Hard to find a good 'bargain' dog that will live up to your expectations.
And it's hard to consider it a bargain if you save a thou but spend multiple thousands on medical care & RX diets or lose your beloved companion much, much too early.

As stated elsewhere, even really bad breeders produce good dogs as well as bad, they just get waaay too many bad ones. Exemplary breeders occasionally produce dogs with serious health & temperament problems BUT seeking out a good breeder stacks the deck in your favor. Do be sure that whatever breeder you select is a 'good' breeder by the criteria of health, soundness, temperament & longevity. I've seen some heavily touted breeders who do everything right by the flow charts yet consistently fail to produce 'good dogs', ie healthy, long lived, sound dogs with EXCELLENT temperaments. In my oh so NOT humble opinion, those will never be truly good breeders regardless of how much others esteem them.
03-22-2014 01:59 PM
RubyTuesday IF you aren't interested in the over sized old fashioned lines that's fine, but don't be misled by people who have little experience with over sized, old fashioned GSDs from experienced & reputable breeders.

Much like Franksmom, my experience with these dogs has been excellent. I've had 3 & all have been sound, healthy, active & with outstanding temperaments. Sam was over 13 yrs old when I had to let her go. Djibouti turned 6 in Dec & has never had even minor health problems, never been even mildly ill. Ditto Phoenix. Both are active, personable, biddable & just a joy to live with.

Not everyone wants these dogs, just like not everyone is enamored of sl. I'm fine with that but not with the spread of inaccurate & misleading info. Determine what it is that you realllly want & then select the breeder that you think will produce what you're seeking & that you can work with. I am soooo glad that I went with what *I* really wanted & NOT with what people on a discussion forum felt I should want.
03-22-2014 12:19 PM
GermanShepherdLoverKing I think I will go for Johnson haul one I made a new thread asking about him thank you for your advice on this one
03-22-2014 08:48 AM
GermanShepherdLoverKing Thank you for helping me I would have bought from them you guys are life savers
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