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03-20-2014 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by Courtney View Post
OP- where does your dog sleep? Does she have free reign of the house, up & down on furniture with the family as she pleases? Generic questions but I'm curious of the snapshot of how she ranks himself.
To add to what Courtney said, take a look at NILIF - nothing in life is free. Dog has to work for every privedge.

Best behaved dogs who ever lived in this house were the rescues/fosters who were strictly NOT ALLOWED upstairs to the master's dens and certainly not allowed to butthead into the bathroom in use. Until they earned that privilege through exceptional behavior.
03-20-2014 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by selzer View Post
I really hope they can post that video.
I couldn't agree more!
03-20-2014 05:24 PM
selzer I really hope they can post that video.
03-19-2014 07:15 PM
Courtney OP- where does your dog sleep? Does she have free reign of the house, up & down on furniture with the family as she pleases? Generic questions but I'm curious of the snapshot of how she ranks himself.
03-19-2014 07:08 PM
David Winners I have no idea what the Hero MOD statement was about. Plenty of people have differing opinions from me and challenge what I have to say.

If you feel that I have been abusive to dogs, that is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I would disagree.

Every time I have mentioned getting physical with a dog, I have explained the situation, my reason for doing so, and strongly cautioned about anyone doing such things with a dog. I have worked hundreds of military dogs. All of these dogs are 18 months or older. The majority are protection trained, or at least tested. Many are kennel raised dogs from KNPV breeders in Europe. Out of these hundreds of dogs, there is a very, very small percentage of dogs that I have been physical with. Sometimes it is necessary IMO. If you haven't experienced working an imported green dog with an attitude, you don't really have something to compare it with.

By comparison, most military and police trainers I am familiar with still train most behaviors through compulsion, with corrections being a big part of everyday training.

To the OP: I recommend an evaluation with a professional trainer who is willing to spend the time necessary to develop and help you implement a leadership program that will change how you interact with the dog in daily life. You may find that the problem behavior goes away if the dog has a clear picture of who you are as a leader and what is expected of the dog.

I like the idea of a muzzle on walks to keep you safe. I also suggest avoiding the behavior until you can get some help with the situation. There are many ways to exercise your dog mentally and physically that will avoid long walks.
03-19-2014 06:38 PM
JakodaCD OA I am going to say this only ONCE.

I have reopened this thread after deleting/editing, the name calling, OT postings and other things that I felt were irrelevant to the orignal Topic.

If anyone wishes to offer advice/suggestions to the original poster, do so.

I reopened it because there is some good advice here that the OP may have missed or wishes to respond to.

The first post I see with name calling or going OT, I'll close the thread for good.

I've left a couple of posts re: David Winners that he can respond to if he chooses..

With that PLAY NICE or Don't Play at all..
03-18-2014 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by DaniFani View Post
You can't have a differing opinion around here without being called abusive, unintelligent, inexperienced, etc...Can't believe this nonsense hasn't been shut down.
.....Or being accused of having a mob mentality. Or being part of the "Pet Population" like it's a bad thing. If you thing that because you feel you have a working dog and that punching a puppy in the head is an accepted training tool, then sadly you've missed the boat.

I don't think anybody disagrees that this 6 month old puppy is exhibiting behavior that shouldn't be tolerated.

I think where the line has been drawn in the sand is punching the puppy in the head to correct it.
03-18-2014 08:17 PM
David Winners I will address this more later, as I've been up for 29 hours.

There is a big difference in working with a puppy, and working with a 4 year old KNPV dog with a history of street bites and handler aggression.

I think the OP needs a good trainer.

Time for bed

David Winners
03-18-2014 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
Something tells me that when David sees this thread, he's not going to be in a good mood when he sees you (boomer & Dani) equating his training methods with punching a puppy in the head - and advocating it under the guise of 'what a real working dog needs.' LOL!
Please tell me where I said any of this? Some people just read what they want to read. I was speaking about hitting a dog being abuse. Your reading comprehension clearly needs a lot of work.

There are two very different lines of thinking here and neither will see the other side. The only laugh out loud ridiculous advice was to taze the dog. That had to be a joke right? But physically correcting the dog yourself whether it's with a closed or open fist or your foot or even head butting the dog I think is sound advice.

A lot of you never have to deal with a difficult dog because you've raised it right and it learns do's and dont's along the way. When you get a difficult dog that never has been reprimanded, then the training is more difficult.
03-18-2014 08:16 PM

I've been on dozens of discussion Forums since before 2002. I've seen just about every behavior known to man. As someone looking in, from the outside, and as a newer member here, who try's to respect everybody opinions.. I feel that anybody with a brain who takes the advice of people who sit and bark at the computer all day is naive. It was Chuck Norris who said; and I quote; "I never criticize anybody else for any reason because I am constantly working on improving myself." Sorry to the good one's and the mods. the advice on the Forum besides; "Coconut Oil" is pretty sad and such bickering. Nice I met someone HERE, I can really count on as the nonsense; is as thick a Tully Fog...

I'm learning you people don't like each other...

Improve and educate your animals, humans seem to be immune to Internet education..
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