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03-19-2014 07:38 AM
Smithie86 2 hours is a normal distance.

I have not seen Michael Ellis train, but have friends who train with him.

Initial impression is that they are very similar, but you would need to verify.
03-18-2014 10:42 PM
Bear L Thanks for the tip on Joel! He's almost 2 hrs away from me.... hmm... decisions decisions....
03-18-2014 08:33 PM
gabyeddo Have anyone trained with Michael Ellis and Joel Monroe before?
How are they different?

P.S.I'm not trying to create animosity here. Please delete this reply if I break any rule for asking this question.

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03-18-2014 02:42 PM
ChunksDad I have just begun to train with Joel and can confirm what all has been said about him and the WOW club he is the head trainer for. I have found that people in the club are great, they are willing to help a fairly newbie pick up things to improve your training. They are all pretty friendly and I have felt welcome on my visits..
Moore, I live locally and unless you are willing to move or are able to incur costly travel expenses realistically you should stay where you are and train with a local club.
I am relatively new to this forum and don't know you but how long have you been doing sch...? Is this your first dog or are you a veteran sch trainer... (sorry for my ignorance) Wouldn't concentrated training in one environment be much more beneficial than a trip to CA and then back again as often as your regiment dictates... (Just food for thought.

03-18-2014 01:32 PM
aarowsmith Stay in the club you're in and bring lots of snacks for everyone on saturdays...
03-18-2014 12:20 PM
onyx'girl One thing you could also focus on is the way the helper works the helps in handling and understanding why/what is going on during the progression, even if you aren't working your own pup, watch the other teams and how the helper works the different type of dogs.
03-18-2014 12:18 PM
moorebaseball Redmen and Smithie,

That is so good to hear about Joel Monroe! The two helpers at my club have been studying under him for the past 5 years, and they seem to have quite a bit of knowledge. My club attends training with Joel Monroe once a year for three to four days. I am glad to hear that he is so good. I will be taking my boy to do additional training with him if he shows promise of going far in the sport !
03-18-2014 11:43 AM
Smithie86 Redman,

Spot on about Joel.

You need to find a trainer that knows what they are doing, for the sport :-).
And one that will be upfront and focused on you doing well.

Too many trainers either dragged out or rush, too many handlers expect quick training and fixes.

Find your happy place!
03-18-2014 01:04 AM
REDMEN I am also very new in this sport. Already experienced many trainers who I am sure are very good at what they do but lack the communication skills. I am going to put another * next to Joel Monroe and let me explain why. In my opinion, Joel does an excellent job of explaining at a level his audience can easily relate to and understand. He breaks it down to the very basics and does not stress perfection. He is very humble and is both a teaher and a student of the sport. In the beginning it should always be about having fun with your pup and making it fun for you both. Joel would tell you that it is good to have goals but be realistic about your expectations.

I say find a local trainer near you and then if time and situation allows, attend a seminar from Joel when it becomes available. The proof is in the work itself and Joel has a soild resume.
03-17-2014 01:44 PM
moorebaseball Thanks to everyone who has commented ! I will keep everyone posted on how the training is going. I get my boy in the first of May!
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