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03-14-2014 01:08 PM
ayoitzrimz
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Originally Posted by robk View Post
In all fairness to you guys, the owner is using this video on their website to promote this dog as a stud so I guess it is fair game.
Maybe, and I'll concede the points to everyone here. I didn't bother to check, but my gut reaction was that it was not really the right thing to do.
With that said, I don't have any stake in the matter so go for it, maybe I was wrong.
03-14-2014 01:06 PM
mego
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Originally Posted by GatorDog View Post
This was my understanding too.

That, and if this was anyone other than a breeder that I know many people on this site are familiar with, there would be 60 comments tearing the training apart by now.
^ so true
03-14-2014 01:03 PM
GatorDog
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Originally Posted by robk View Post
In all fairness to you guys, the owner is using this video on their website to promote this dog as a stud so I guess it is fair game.
This was my understanding too.

That, and if this was anyone other than a breeder that I know many people on this site are familiar with, there would be 60 comments tearing the training apart by now.
03-14-2014 12:58 PM
robk In all fairness to you guys, the owner is using this video on their website to promote this dog as a stud so I guess it is fair game.
03-14-2014 12:35 PM
Blitzkrieg1 I have actually never seen the guarding and entries cut out like that in any protection clips I have seen. Those are generally focussed on, sometimes conclusions can be drawn by what is not there.
I suppose you could argue the behaviors shown could be a result of to much pressure from the helper in early training.. However, a stud quality dog should be looking better then that imo.
03-14-2014 11:57 AM
crackem get a helper you trust or do it yourself. You'll know all you need to know
03-14-2014 11:55 AM
Liesje The clips are kind of weird. If I was seriously considering using this dog for stud or buying a puppy, I'd need to see a lot more than just this YouTube vid, so I'm not sure how much I'd want to judge from just this vid.
03-14-2014 11:38 AM
Blitzkrieg1 the dog is on YouTube the dog is being used as a stud. People on this forum are steered towards litters produced by this dog. If we cannot look at a publicly available video of a dog working and critique it then we might as well all get off the internet now. Perhaps some people thought the dog was awesome? It cannot always be sweetness and light we cannot only examine the good examples without having those less than good to compare them with
03-14-2014 10:45 AM
crackem Generally an open and marketed stud dog is fair game IMO for critique. Here or anywhere.

That said, unless it's the owner asking for it, I'm not inclined to give a public critique. This thread will probably get deleted too, so on the rare occasion I say something noteworthy it will be lost in that internet black hole anyway

But those paying attention will probably be able to connect the dots. This video gives everyone a good idea of something I was talking about on a different thread.
03-14-2014 10:06 AM
ayoitzrimz
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I felt the same way concerning the way that the dog reacted to the drive, how he seemed to be avoiding the pressure.

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See I hate when helpers do the big old circular drive when driving a dog. You don't know who's leading this "dance" the dog or the helper. Helpers should drive into the dog. Tell the dog, I'm going this way, even if it means I'm running right through you. Like it or not you are going in the pocket. But it comes with experience I suppose, some dogs can really move when avoiding pressure.

Anyway With regards to the OP I can't tell a thing watching the video. But does the owner of this dog know you are posting his videos for all to critique? Just because you CAN (it's on youtube) really doesn't mean you SHOULD IMO. Championships are one thing, training sessions are another.
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