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03-14-2014 10:31 PM
David Winners It won't do any good to reply. David can never back anything up with any kind of proof or data. He just avoids anything he doesn't have an explanation for.
03-14-2014 09:23 PM
crackem I wasn't even sure how to respond, so I didn't
03-14-2014 09:15 PM
lhczth
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Originally Posted by David Taggart View Post
Please, let me disagree. That's a K9 training. Your dog doesn't mean to protect anything in sport, he plays. "Serious dogs" simply cannot compete with those in the presence of whom you do a handshake with the decoy. A Schutzhund dog with a stella reputation is a flier, all four in the air, who will be precise at everything including timing, not that one who goes all teeth and hackles to spend his energy in a short time. Though, everybody uses Schutzhund as a first stage before starting PP training. Schutzhund is left there, on the green grass in the fenced area, it is never taken into the streets or in the woods.
This is absolute nonsense. It shows a total lack of understanding about both SchH and PP. Actually, your comments don't even warrant a response, but we all do get really tired of the bull doodoo.
03-14-2014 09:30 AM
JanaeUlva
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Originally Posted by Zahnburg View Post
Firstly, Lies and Chris; excellent job answering the OP's questions. Secondly, Janae, I don't know what you did with your font but my eyeballs hurt after reading your post.

Thirdly, and the reason I decided to chime in; David, Really??! I seriously doubt that you have any experience with IPO. Without going too much into your flawed ideas just allow me to ask you one question; just because a boxer trains to win in the ring while wearing gloves, does that mean he can't kick your ass when you mess with him at the local (as they say in the UK) pub?

LOL Just testing out my font app, so I guess I won't do that again. And I love your boxer analogy! Yea! OK gotta go train my pretend dogs.




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03-13-2014 11:11 PM
Zahnburg Firstly, Lies and Chris; excellent job answering the OP's questions. Secondly, Janae, I don't know what you did with your font but my eyeballs hurt after reading your post.

Thirdly, and the reason I decided to chime in; David, Really??! I seriously doubt that you have any experience with IPO. Without going too much into your flawed ideas just allow me to ask you one question; just because a boxer trains to win in the ring while wearing gloves, does that mean he can't kick your ass when you mess with him at the local (as they say in the UK) pub?
03-13-2014 09:40 PM
David Taggart
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ѕнe ιѕ a "ѕporт dog",
Please, let me disagree. That's a K9 training. Your dog doesn't mean to protect anything in sport, he plays. "Serious dogs" simply cannot compete with those in the presence of whom you do a handshake with the decoy. A Schutzhund dog with a stella reputation is a flier, all four in the air, who will be precise at everything including timing, not that one who goes all teeth and hackles to spend his energy in a short time. Though, everybody uses Schutzhund as a first stage before starting PP training. Schutzhund is left there, on the green grass in the fenced area, it is never taken into the streets or in the woods.
03-13-2014 09:08 PM
onyx'girl
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Originally Posted by David Taggart View Post
Are you? Or, just with the world of obedience? Schutzhund sport isn't as popular in UK as in US. Brits have a completely different approach to the dog, and police dog training is Germany oriented. This one is the best what we have:
Schutzhund Dog Training > Main Section > Von Wolf Kennels, but once I was fully into sport for quite a few years. So, if you asked me specific questions like "Why the decoy should shed the sleeve exactly when dog is slamming into?" or something about re-engagement, I would probably try answering. But with such question you just provided for me I cannot choose a horse for a proper approach. Sorry, I'm training myself to train people.
I am familiar with it, yes. I do train in the sport. My dog will not just bite a sleeve, he'd be happy to bite whatever he could grab. He'd much rather not have to bite the sleeve...but he knows it is what he has to do to stay clean.
Exactly what country are you in David Taggart?
03-13-2014 08:52 PM
JanaeUlva aѕ мenтιoned, lιeѕ and cнrιѕ dιd a greaт joв anѕwerιng тнe op'ѕ qυeѕтιonѕ. вυт ι нave тo ѕay тнaт ιт geтѕ old wнen ι ѕee ѕcнυтzнυnd dogѕ wнιтewaѕнed aѕ ѕporт dogѕ playιng a gaмe wιтн lιттle ѕerιoυѕneѕѕ ιn тнe вιтe worĸ wнo woυldn'т ĸnow wнaт тo do ιғ тнe ѕleeve waѕ gone. ѕιnce ι нave no way oғ evalυaтιng тнe мajorιтy oғ ѕcнυтzнυnd тraιned dogѕ and тнυѕ ι can only coммenт on мy eхperιence тнaт ιѕ вaѕed on тraιnιng 4 dogѕ and ιnvolved ιn ѕcнυтzнυnd over a тιмe perιod oғ 20 yearѕ and waтcнιng all тнe dogѕ ιn тнe varιoυѕ clυвѕ ι вelonged тo aѕ well aѕ worĸιng wιтн varιoυѕ тraιnerѕ and нelperѕ. ѕo ғor wнaт ιт'ѕ worтн, ѕoмe тraιnerѕ wanт тнe dogѕ тo вe ѕerιoυѕ, and dependιng on тнe dog, wιll do dιғғerenт тypeѕ oғ тraιnιng тo "мaĸe real proтecтιon" aѕ a very тop ѕporт & ĸ9 oғғιcer нandler/тraιner pυт ιт тo мe.

мy тraιner тrιeѕ нard тo нave тнe вιтe worĸ вe aвoυт тнe мan, noт jυѕт тнe ѕleeve. oвvιoυѕly, ѕoмe dogѕ can worĸ тнιѕ way and ѕoмe jυѕт don'т нave тнaт perѕonalιтy. мy gιrl нaѕ done well ιn мυzzle worĸ; ѕнe нaѕ нad cнaιrѕ тнrown aт нer (careғυlly) aѕ ѕнe ιѕ pυrѕυιng тнe нelper and never нeѕιтaтed; ѕнe нaѕ вeen on тнe ѕleeve and ѕwυng ιnтo a wall (careғυlly) and dιd noт вυdge oғғ тнe ѕleeve; ѕнe нaѕ ιnadverтenтly нad a wнιp тo нer eye dυrιng a вarĸ & нold and ѕтayed rιgнт тнere; ѕнe нaѕ нad тo rυn ιnтo a darĸ вarn, ғιnd тнe нιdden нelper and perғorм a вarĸ & нold; ѕнe even waѕ ѕenт ιnтo тнe woodѕ and acтυally waѕ clιмвιng тнe тree тo geт тo тнe нelper - ι plυcĸed нer oғғ тнe тree вeғore anyвody (dog or perѕon) goт нυrт. ѕo even ιғ ѕнe ιѕ a "ѕporт dog", ѕнe ιѕ enjoyѕ тнe ғιgнт and wιll вιтe a нιdden ѕleeve, a ѕυιт and ѕĸιn.

aѕ a ғιnal noтe, ѕнe ιѕ a wonderғυl ғaмιly dog and a joy тo тraιn.


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03-13-2014 08:47 PM
David Taggart
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are you familiar with IPO/do you even train in the sport?
Are you? Or, just with the world of obedience? Schutzhund sport isn't as popular in UK as in US. Brits have a completely different approach to the dog, and police dog training is Germany oriented. This one is the best what we have:
Schutzhund Dog Training > Main Section > Von Wolf Kennels, but once I was fully into sport for quite a few years. So, if you asked me specific questions like "Why the decoy should shed the sleeve exactly when dog is slamming into?" or something about re-engagement, I would probably try answering. But with such question you just provided for me I cannot choose a horse for a proper approach. Sorry, I'm training myself to train people.
03-13-2014 07:35 PM
onyx'girl David Taggart.... are you familiar with IPO/do you even train in the sport?
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