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03-18-2014 08:17 PM
FirefighterGSD
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Originally Posted by Neko View Post
As far as I know good reputable breeders don't breed for long coat. Long coat puppies just happen from both parents that have the gene.
This. I agree with the general comments here, look for a reputable breeder that happens to have long coats pop up now and then and get into contact with them, that was you're basically "on a waiting list" when the next one should pop up. Good luck.
03-16-2014 11:20 AM
Stosh Stosh was from a litter of 6 pups- 3 were long coated 3 were not. It was his dam's first litter so the breeder wasn't expecting the long coats. Turns out her father carried the gene. I picked him for his temperament and conformation, not his coat. Of course now I think he's gorgeous!
03-15-2014 11:53 PM
Xyst Sin Thank you so much for your support. I've had my fair share of puppies and was so happy actually to get an older dog. The fact that hes a senior is of no concern to me. I firmly believe in every dog deserving to be happy till the day they pass, which is exactly what I plan on doing for him.
03-15-2014 11:49 PM
Makobytes Awesome news! It is always good to hear of someone stepping up in order to give a dog a good home, he gets a home where he will be appreciated and no doubt he will return the favor with his love. He may be lacking muscle tone in the rear if he did not get proper exercise. Long coats can sometimes hide the condition of their body with all that coat but you seem diligent with your care to catch any problems.
Briskaboo13 my statement was general in nature and 8 was a number I drew from the top of my head. I had not even viewed the web page of the breeder you mentioned. It is just my observation that kennels not breeding to the standard will list multiple studs most if not all without any titles. Responsible breeders place very high standards of the studs they use. Sometimes breeders will list studs belonging to other breeders as a courtesy.
03-15-2014 10:29 PM
Xyst Sin He looks very good on the front part of his body but when he is standing his back end is ALL skin and bone. I'm honestly surprised he can walk and he even likes to run to play. Hes about 79.5# right now (weighed him today) and is obviously under weight in person. He is 28" at the shoulders, 30" long chest to back end, and is just a LOT of hair. We spent 2 hours brushing him today and still have about 3 hours of work pulling out matts, excess shed, and general brushing/washing. I'll get a bath picture up soon and that should really show it.
03-15-2014 09:52 PM
mego he is gorgeous
unfortunate they had to rehome him but glad he found a good home with you he doesn't really look underweight to me in those pics at all
03-15-2014 09:08 PM
Xyst Sin
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Originally Posted by Makobytes View Post
Limiting yourself to longcoat breeders is not a good idea, it is far better to get a dog from a breeder striving to breed to the standards that this great breed demands and getting a longcoat puppy from proven dogs. Stay away from breeders breeding for oversized or large dogs, they lack the ability and knowledge necessary and do a lot of damage to the dogs they produce and their buyers due to their recklessness. Stock coat West German conformation lines that are breed surveyed often produce long coats that appear large and magnificent. Look up the results from past UScA and WDA Siegershows, the longcoat classes are very small but it will give you an idea who is producing quality longcoats. Even though you have no desire to show or get a working title on your dog it is advisable that you get a dog from someone who does. The founders of this breed required breeders to show and get working titles on their dogs to prove their worthiness. Pedigrees are usually only useful to those that are familiar with the dogs and what they produce but they can also show major red flags to the novice if dogs without titles or hip scores or missing ancestry appear.
Markobytes
Thanks, this does make sense. I'll start looking around for the future. My one plush coat puppy was the only one in her litter of 13, but she's turning out to be one of the smallest dogs I've ever had. It was just frustrating after having 30# dogs for so long and I just wanted a large dog, so I bought a shepherd. Large for me is like 55#+ but she is going to end up like 50# I believe.

I was actually browsing craigslist yesterday and found a post of someone rehoming their 9 year old long coat male because they were moving from a house to an apartment, so my bf and I went and picked him up like an hour after that. Haha

Hes absolutely beautiful, needs some work (grooming wise) and some weight (about 20# under weight as the lady who had him before us got him from a rescue and had no intention of moving out of her house, but circumstances :/) but I'm over all glad that I was able to find the dog I was looking for essentially in an older, trained, rescue situation.
03-15-2014 03:02 PM
BriskaBoo13 Makobytes, if you are refering to Majic Forrest with your 8 studs comment, they are not all on site (if you were not, then I'm sorry for commenting)...she has connections with other breeders and she posts on her website what dogs she uses so that people can see what she has and can use. She has offiliates in several states, one I believe is in New York, and she posts on her site as to help them out. She loves the long coats and that is why she has bred longcoats, there is nothing wrong with that. The OP obviously loves them too and would like one, nothing wrong with that. She is a good breeder and breeds the best she can but does breed longcoats, hence why I posted that kennel. She is a very good, honest woman and would answer any questions that she was asked.
03-14-2014 12:25 PM
Makobytes Not seeing the sire on the site does not mean that it is not a good breeder. Some breeders will use another breeder's stud if that stud compliments the pairing. Having 8 studs on site would be another indication that the breeders standards are not high or they are a puppy mill. It is easy for a backyard breeder to have both parents on site. The better breeders will have one or just a few studs who have major accomplishments. I agree with you on AKC pedigrees, seeing a UKC pedigree is a major red flag that the lineage can not be proven or that the breeder has been caught falsifying AKC pedigrees and has been banned.
03-14-2014 12:04 PM
stmcfred I agree with the others, find a breeder you like that has long coats occasionally. I got my girl from Alta-Tollhaus in Michigan. Julie doesn't breed for long coats but has them pop up occasionally. In Lola's litter there were three female long coats.
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