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03-13-2014 09:55 AM
onyx'girl great insight:
The Naughty Dogge
Socializing a Puppy:

There is nothing more fun than having a puppy around. These are the moments that our television remotes collect dust, and rather our evenings are spent on the floor with our puppies.

Here is a socialization list that I wrote for one of the last puppies that I raised. This is the type of thing that I teach in my puppy class, which is starting this Monday at Eight. Please spread the word to new puppy owners!

1) Ridden in a wheelbarrow.
2) Many, many bridges of different surfaces, widths, heights, gaps inbetween planks etc. She can now take a slippery plank over my pond at a gallop, and stay on!
3) Climbing Driftwood at the beach for footing, balance, and learning how to use her body
4) Climbing rocks at botanical beach. This rock is thin sheets, so you need to focus on your feet and balance.
5) Sooke Home Hardware
6) Pet Smart where she shopped - but be careful of overly-friendly strangers who may not heed your instructions
7) The Gorge Waterway past heavy traffic, an odd pedestrian bridge, people, bikes, dogs, joggers etc
8) Canadian Tire, with a slippery, shiny entrance that she didn't even notice
9) Many types of floor surfaces
10) Only one dog-park trip with most pass-bys done in my arms, and several on the ground with very safe, kind dogs.
11) One walk with a friend and her dog
12) Children, and sat outside playgrounds
13) Hung out with chickens, ducks, and goats.
14) Been tossed into a giant box stuffed full with Teddy Bears, then got covered with Teddies and had to crawl her way out
15) Had towels thrown over top of her head. We have now graduated to entire sheets
16) Been held for cuddling and kisses every night
17) Had her toe-nails worked on twice, with a dremel
18) Been cuddled and kissed while she chews on her bones
19) We walk at a new beach, forest or Mountain every single day. We are yet to repeat a walk.
20) Got stuffed into my jacket so I was 'wearing her', and we went for a bike ride down the galloping goose.
21) Is crated every single day for varying lengths of times
22) Has travelled in two vehicles, in different types of crates or seating arrangements.
23) Has been to Dintner Nurseries, and made friends with all the staff inside.
24) Because she is so friendly, she has had to learn the art of walking past people without always saying hello. We walk past at least four out of five people without greeting, otherwise her friendliness with be annoying when she is big and strong.
25) Maybe one of the most important things: She can pee and poop on grass, gravel, asphalt, or cement, on a leash, or free. This makes traveling very simple.
26) Every day she is presented with small problems that she must solve... how to get her ball that rolled under the couch, how to get the marrow out of her bone, how to stay on a bridge without falling off, how to climb over a downed tree that is higher than she thinks she can climb. I help her but NEVER do it for her. And I only help enough so that she has the confidence to do the rest. If she puts in no effort, I will not help her.
27) She is learning to come running back fast on her name, no matter the distraction. If she is running with my dogs, saying 'hello' to the chickens, seeing a person that she want to run to - 'Come' means chase me.
28) The Boardwalk in Sooke. It is a walk on a raised bridge - and is a fabulous experience for puppies.
29) She is learning that scratching up at, and holding onto my adult dog's heads while you passionately kiss them is not allowed.
30) Play Dates with trusted dog-friends
31) Walk on all types of stairs.
32) Been in a boat
33) Go swimming with a slow steady introduction to water
34) gone into the petting zoo to see all the animals, and more importantly, all the children
35) Walked on the weird decks at Fisherman's Wharf and explored this fun place. Be careful your puppy does not get eaten by the seals - and no, I am not joking. Don't allow them on the edge, peering into the water, just incase!

Socialization means teaching life skills. I am exposing her to every possible skill that she might need to be a functional adult. With all of her exposure and success comes a level of confidence and bravery; she will get to the point where she believes she is invincible. Even when she does get into trouble, she knows I am right there behind her to help her with her difficulties.

When she has felt overwhelmed or scared, we do the experience in my arms, rather than on the floor. By not asking her to brave it, she watches from up high, and then starts wriggling like a mad woman wanting to get down and do it herself. Rather than asking her to try it, by taking that option away and making her feel safe she has to then demand that she is allowed to try it. Because it is her choice she is then brave as soon as she is put down on the ground.

My last puppy never did have one 'bad' experience. Unfortunately, it will happen, and even when it does, she will know that I am there to protect her and help her. As she goes on her adventures in the world, both good and bad, we are a team, and I have her back.

Monique Anstee
Victoria, BC
Naughty Dogge - Monique Anstee | Dog Training and Dog Obedience Victoria BC
03-13-2014 06:21 AM
jocoyn Understood. I don't think Jason owns the sire though based on the statement the officer is in Wrightsville GA which is many miles away in a very rural area. Jason is just her husband who happens to be a police officer (I don't think he is a K9 handler).
03-12-2014 11:42 PM
carmspack Hi Jocoyn , I know that there are US working police service dogs that are bred , Mike and his Brawnson, years ago Alk Osterburg quell , the team at von der Polizei About US - von der Polizei Shepherds , those are the ones I know .
And that is a good thing !

unfortunately too many times dogs are said to be and simply are not
03-12-2014 10:31 PM
jocoyn I checked out the K-9 pines website and Facebook page. They are not far from me, in the same county where we do training with police and sheriff departments. Have never met them nor seen any of their dogs but there is a very unusual focus and mix of colors with structures that are not typical of any lines of GSDs I have ever seen.

I have trained around a lot of the police dogs in the area and the GSDs are all typical West German or Czech/DDR types unlike the ones on the K9 Pines page and have nice temperaments as well. Safe dogs to be around. Nothing but respect for what I see in the departmental dogs. There is also the standard complement of Malinois as well.

I am not sure there ARE restrictions on department dogs being bred in the South, Carmen. Some of the officers own their dogs outright and others were imported through more traditional channels. Most (in this area) are intact males with a few spayed females. So I don't think it is that uncommon for a working dual purpose dog to be bred
03-12-2014 06:22 PM
carmspack no where is there any mention of the male dog being a working police service dog ---

the man , Jason is in law enforcement .

I don't think there is much testing for temperament and no priority for good stable temperament. This is an invented market niche. "rare" colours .
03-12-2014 06:15 PM
onyx'girl Thank you Megan...very nice post!
03-12-2014 06:13 PM
mego
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Originally Posted by Madisonmj97 View Post
Y'all are a piece of work I sweaaaar... Like honestly okay, I'll agree to disagree on all the ones trying to act like they know it all. You didn't invent the breed so take a step down seriously. I particularly like the fawns which is why I got the puppy that looked most like the mom so what y'all are saying to me if you're aiming to try and prove me wrong, I like how he is. As long as he is GSD he's perf. So please hop off me, where are the nice GSD owners on here that aren't always trying to prove points and ignoring what my thread was mainly about... SOCIALIZATION. Not breeding and colors and what's a police dog and whats not. Idc, I'm wanting to know about socializing or I would have asked something similar to breeding. Anyways... I will take the advice that the people had do with my main thread and not about the color or whatever opposite.
You get offended by a lot in here but the reason this thread took this spin is because socialization is directly impacted by breeding. Sometimes you can socialize a puppy a ton and they won't turn out well, sometimes you can improve them a little bit. The bottom line is it is mostly genetic, so when people come to the forum with a problem it's easier to give you a solution or learn more info if they know the origin of the puppy.

There are many people on the board that know A LOT about gsds and they are not getting in your face. The reality of the breed is that it is kind of in a state of crisis, there is a deviation from solid, stable dogs in favor for things like color (not saying your puppy is one of those) so as an effort to better the breed in the future, people try to teach others what sorts of things to look for to get close to the 'ideal gsd'. If more people discouraged poor breeding with no health tests, the gsd wouldn't be afflicted with so many health and nerve problems.

I know you are 17 (saw in another thread) and you just want a dog that you are happy with - and people are happy for you, but a lot of these questions really come from the genetic component of the dog and no one here wants to see someone get a nerve-bag dog because it is no fun to live with. I believe everyone here has the best intention for the breed as a whole and wants to help you socialize your puppy, but the main message is: you wouldn't have to worry about this perhaps if you had selected another breeder that breeds more stable dogs. That's all. no one is attacking you.
03-12-2014 06:08 PM
LoveEcho
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Originally Posted by Madisonmj97 View Post
Is this false info? Attachment 190338
Yes.
03-12-2014 06:08 PM
SunCzarina I stopped reading on k9-pines after the first paragraph I read said something about the man of the house being a police officer and she's the mother (of adult children). Went up my feminist arse.
03-12-2014 06:04 PM
onyx'girl
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Originally Posted by Madisonmj97 View Post
Is this false info? Attachment 190338
the website k9-pines.com? I would not trust one thing posted on that website. Though it is a great example of what I posted above.
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