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03-17-2014 08:02 PM
Harry and Lola Wish people giving advice would just stick to writing about their own personal experience - good or bad, worked or didn't work, regardless of what the masses are saying. I have noticed some posters advice looks suspiciously like something they have copied off an internet site - mainly Leerburg and pass this writing off as their own (not talking about posters that quote the source).

To me, a persons account of their personal experience is far more interesting, valuable and informative than copying and pasting Leerburgs writings. I am always very interested in reading about personal experiences. I understand what works for one may not work for another, however the fact that someone has tried and tested or used etc is helpful and allows you to consider your options.

I should say I don't mind reading someone's opinion if they haven't had experience, as long as they say they have no experience and are just offering advice that may or may not be suitable.

At the end of the day everyone is responsible and capable of making the right choice for their individual situation.
03-17-2014 02:37 PM
Merciel
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Originally Posted by martemchik View Post
I have realized the biggest issue is being able to tell who and expert is and who isn't.
yep

It's hard to tell who actually knows what they're talking about and who doesn't (well, barring the most obvious space aliens...) unless you yourself are at least somewhat familiar with the topic under discussion.

Eventually it does become pretty obvious, I think, but it takes some time to get there.
03-10-2014 04:43 PM
Liesje Maybe I'm more old fashioned (I'm not even 30!) but I definitely believe there are "experts". In my family, most of the men became tradesmen like plumbers or carpenters. When I need a plumber I call a professional. When I need work done on my van, I trust my mechanic. My brother is a professional fishing guide. He works in remote locations all over the country and people pay a LOT of money to go fishing with him for a few hours, of course I think he's an expert. I saw how devoted he was to his craft, not just the amount of hours and the places he fished but he's also very artistic and ties flies for other people. I am the type of person that trusts and respects my primary care doctor and my dog's vet. If I didn't, why the heck would I waste my time and money on them? I work in IT and I have several clearly defined "areas of expertise" in which I am certified and have spent 10+ years doing the work daily.
03-10-2014 03:15 PM
ayoitzrimz
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Originally Posted by shepherdmom View Post
Wait until you've been doing something for years and years and some young whippersnapper comes up to you and says my way of doing things is better, your outdated. Lets see how you feel then..
There will always be new ways of doing things. Sometimes, those newer ways will also work better in certain situations, etc. I think flexibility and critical thinking are both keys in discerning what to do with some new method / idea / opinion.

Expertise can be relative as well. I'm a software developer, with just a few years under my belt. Someone with 20+ years can have a lot to teach me about career development, well defined patterns, code reuse, etc. But you'll be surprised how many times the answer to some very complex problem can be very simple when it comes from a new grad with a fresh pair of eyes.

We can't get stuck in our ways but rather always evolve, learn, and advance. Again, critical thinking is required.

I always say: "The moment you think you know everything is the moment you stop learning anything"
03-10-2014 01:54 PM
shepherdmom
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Originally Posted by martemchik View Post
I was actually thinking about this over the weekend...when "expertise" comes from experience you'll have a lot more issues because that experience can sometimes feel outdated. I equated this (in my brain) to this...people older than me have been doing math for longer than I have, but due to my training and occupation, I'm more than likely a better mathematician than they are...so to me its like, in some cases...just because you've done something for longer than someone else, it doesn't make you more of an expert.
Wait until you've been doing something for years and years and some young whippersnapper comes up to you and says my way of doing things is better, your outdated. Lets see how you feel then..
03-10-2014 01:50 PM
GSDolch If we were to only talk and use this forum as a source, I'd say its a load of hog wash. This is the internet, anyone can or can't be an expert. If an "expert" comes on here explaining how they are right and everyone else is wrong, I know I'm least likely to listen to them.

I'd probably feel the same way outside the internet too.

Now people with lots of knowledge, who truly want to help, have been there/done that but understand that they to once knew nothing and don't talk down to people. They I will probably listen to. I also don't think that a real "expert" is going to let questions over the internet bother them about if they are or aren't one.

I don't like comparing things on what people are and aren't experts on when it comes to the internet, anyone can be an expert. It's a shame some people get so bent out of shape about being questioned. From my perspective that is safety on MY part. Something I think a real expert would respect and understand.
03-10-2014 01:48 PM
jocoyn Good article.
03-10-2014 01:24 PM
martemchik After 3 years on the forum (this is my first and only forum other than car forums that I have to have accounts on to read DIY type threads)...I have realized the biggest issue is being able to tell who and expert is and who isn't. Our resumes aren't posted, truthfully the experience isn't posted, and our subject matter is extremely driven by experience.

There are definitely people I have learned to respect more than others on here, and overall I really enjoy everyone's opinions. I really hate the posts that try to completely oppose another post, or the ones that speak as if their experience is an absolute rather than just a point on the bell curve of what can possibly happen.

I was actually thinking about this over the weekend...when "expertise" comes from experience you'll have a lot more issues because that experience can sometimes feel outdated. I equated this (in my brain) to this...people older than me have been doing math for longer than I have, but due to my training and occupation, I'm more than likely a better mathematician than they are...so to me its like, in some cases...just because you've done something for longer than someone else, it doesn't make you more of an expert.
03-10-2014 01:13 PM
RocketDog
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Originally Posted by Okin View Post
I have taken people from a fishing forum out fishing before and they will swear what I am doing will not work or the spot we are fishing will not work based on what they read on the forum. I'm like trust me I'm out here every week doing this. Then they catch a new personal best and I still think they believe I just got lucky.

This reminds me of people who come back into the nursery (that were not watering their new plant material enough and I advised such) saying that they bought some vitamin supplement at the hardware store and put a few drops into a bucket and applied it every day and WOW! It's doing so much better!

Yeah. Because the watering they finally were giving it didn't actually do it.
03-10-2014 01:09 PM
Blanketback I don't know what an expert is. I know that there are people with an insatiable quest for knowledge and have a wealth of experience to draw from - but they're always looking for more. They also don't call themselves experts, lol. But I like them.
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