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03-09-2014 10:38 AM
Baillif Depends. If you have good resources like a great helpers or decoys who can work your dog then no probably not. If you dont and have to work your own dog mostly and then expose them to other decoys when you can then yeah youre going to need to understand that part of things. People usually start out working dogs that are not competing anymore till they at least learn the basics and get safe about things before they release the good dogs on you.
03-09-2014 08:16 AM
robk First of all I always say thank you to my decoys after they get done working my dog. I know it is very physically challenging.

Second thing; I have never wanted to be a decoy. But I want to be a great handler and learn as much reading dogs as I can. I often wonder if I need to work some dogs on the other end to fully appreciate what is going on. I have no interest in messing up someone else's dog through bad or inexperienced helper work so I have never even given it a try. Are all good handlers expected to also be helpers at some point?
03-09-2014 12:53 AM
Baillif For a lot of them I swear they like you more after they get to bite and crank on you for a while.
03-09-2014 12:50 AM
mycobraracr
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With the sport dogs I work they don't need you out of the suit to make friends. You can pet them hug them pick them up while in the suit. They attack when told.
Yes to this too! I'm a big fan of control and working the man not equipment.
03-09-2014 12:49 AM
mycobraracr
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That's not too bad, but yeah semi comp on a hard biter is not fun. I've still got a swollen forearm a little more than a month later from forearm bites through a practice suit. It looked like Popeyes forearm for a while and was wondering if I should pay a visit to a doctor. There's still a little spot of swelling and fluid in there I can move around.
Yup not too bad, just the only picture I have of any type of puncture. I was working a dog on tall table today and I presented wrong. The dog caught my bones just right and I thought he was going to break my arm there for a minute. Luckily I was able to work it enough to get my arm in the correct position. It doesn't feel too great either. I will take the hard full biters over the frontal biters any day though.
03-09-2014 12:46 AM
Baillif With the sport dogs I work they don't need you out of the suit to make friends. You can pet them hug them pick them up while in the suit. They attack when told.
03-09-2014 12:44 AM
mycobraracr
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Another question....

After being a chew toy for a while, do you de-suit and go say hello to the dogs? Give em a good rub and scratch their ears? They aren't dumb and have to know that they were gnawing on you at some point, do the dogs ever give you the stink-eye?
There are different schools of thought and every dog is different. I try and not interact with the dogs I decoy. I generally don't treat it like a game. Yes there is some mutual respect because we are working towards the same goal. Success for the dog. That being said some dogs are with handlers that don't need, want or can handle a civil dog. So in some cases I will pet the dogs and let them know I'm not all bad. We sometimes get into interesting situations though. Were I train, many of us compete in many different venues. So today for example I was a mock judge for AKC obedience on a dog that I decoy multiple days a week. It made it very hard for the dog as she never wanted to take her eyes off me. The "stand for exam" was even more sketchy. All ended well but it was definitely not easy for the dog.
03-09-2014 12:41 AM
Baillif That's not too bad, but yeah semi comp on a hard biter is not fun. I've still got a swollen forearm a little more than a month later from forearm bites through a practice suit. It looked like Popeyes forearm for a while and was wondering if I should pay a visit to a doctor. There's still a little spot of swelling and fluid in there I can move around.

Brem of you have a bond with the dog they'll kinda push it till you say stop. Once you've got protection they forget your body is behind it either that or stop caring. If your dog was trained and had his jaw conditioned to really bite you'd be in deep trouble doing something like that.
03-09-2014 12:38 AM
brembo Another question....

After being a chew toy for a while, do you de-suit and go say hello to the dogs? Give em a good rub and scratch their ears? They aren't dumb and have to know that they were gnawing on you at some point, do the dogs ever give you the stink-eye?
03-09-2014 12:33 AM
Zeeva This is a very eye opening post...thanks
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