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04-01-2014 10:12 AM
Cara Fusinato I had a male aussie with a female aussie, a male aussie with a male aussie, a male aussie with a shepherd male pup, and a shepherd with a female sheltie. Both females were/are rough on the males. I like the male/male combo. It's all easy going and best buddies. Female, totally different atmosphere.
04-01-2014 02:10 AM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by selzer View Post

If you are going to bring home a second female, than you need to have a plan in place in case a problem develops over the course of the next several months or even years -- they do not necessarily happen until the young one grows into a mature bitch. I think this is one of those situations where, if you have to ask about it, it is best not to do more than one bitch.


Yep I had head 12 to 30 months. This time I can say "I have not been there done that" nor do I ever intend to!
03-31-2014 09:41 PM
selzer
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I have had four dogs in the house recently, one male GSD , a female Yellow Lab, a very old female Border Collie, and an older Chow/collie? mix female. The Chow mix came from the pound at 4 or 5 years old and hated the BC on sight. I foolishly thought they would improve over time, though: It didn't happen. They never got along and I hate to say it, but I was glad when the Chow cross died five years later and gave my old BC the last ten months of her life without the other around. The Yellow Lab came in as a puppy when the Chow mix had been here a few months. Zero problems at any time with the Lab. They were all fixed dogs.

My takeaway from that is, two adult females may not get along if one comes in as an adult, but if one comes in as a puppy it will probably work.

In the past when I had a male BC with GSD male, they were fine together. Best pairings have seemed to be male and females for me. Right now the older male GSD is 9 and the Yellow Lab is 8 1/2, and they have been great friends. Other GSD male with BC female pairings have also been great friends.

The new GSD puppy that came into the household 6 weeks ago will most likely get a little sister in the next year because the other two will be gone in five years and I like to keep multiple dogs around for company (me and for them, too).

Very sorry that you lost your yearling. It's heartbreaking to hear about. Hope the ones you have and are getting will be with you for a long, long time.
I'm sorry, but a sample of one doesn't really give you enough information to say probably. With adults, if the owner of the dog is honest and has a good understanding of the dog they are selling/homing, then you can maybe have a better chance of getting two females that will not be likely to row than by going with a puppy, whose adult temperament is not yet apparent.

However, even with adults, once they are in their new environment with new canine members, things still may not be the way they were previously. If your bitch was dominant toward your previous bitch, with the new one it will really depend on how much different the old bitch was when compared to the new bitch. The new bitches previous owners, may say that she is submissive, but their bitch might be very dominant, or her dam. And under different leadership, things just might be different.

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Temperament similarities and differences determine if the 2 dogs will get along or fight. It is more important than sex. You should already know the temperament of the existing dog (social, prey, defense, possessiveness, aggression, dominance, alpha, beta etc etc) so you need to select the next dog based on matches and mismatches to ensure they will quickly form an order and not challenge each other.

I have 2 intact males and they run together with no issues because their temperament similarities and (most important) differences compliment each other.
I agree to a point, and that is, that bitches are different than dogs, and you cannot know that an 8 week old puppy is likely or unlikely to mesh well with your current bitch. All you know is the current bitch, and if she hasn't lived with other bitches, than you really do not know about that either.

Dogs are different. A strong leader, good management, plenty of training and exercise, and you should be able to manage dogs. Bitches are a different animal. And there is no way to determine how it will add up until they are together, both sexually mature, and everything even. So it is just better all around, if bringing in a puppy to stick with males if you have a male or males, or bring in a female. If you have a female, get a male.

If you are going to bring home a second female, than you need to have a plan in place in case a problem develops over the course of the next several months or even years -- they do not necessarily happen until the young one grows into a mature bitch. I think this is one of those situations where, if you have to ask about it, it is best not to do more than one bitch.


03-31-2014 05:55 PM
Packen Temperament similarities and differences determine if the 2 dogs will get along or fight. It is more important than sex. You should already know the temperament of the existing dog (social, prey, defense, possessiveness, aggression, dominance, alpha, beta etc etc) so you need to select the next dog based on matches and mismatches to ensure they will quickly form an order and not challenge each other.

I have 2 intact males and they run together with no issues because their temperament similarities and (most important) differences compliment each other.
03-31-2014 04:57 PM
tvorek it really depends on the dogs but also on the owners, I think.
03-31-2014 04:51 PM
Harry and Lola So sorry for your loss, that must have been devastating for you and your family plus your aussie.

I don't have experience with 2 dogs of the same sex, only the opposite sex.

Imo it depends on the dog, I have a male and a female however before I got my male Lola had a GSD female friend that I used to look after sometimes, even overnight and the 2 girls got on beautifully. Harry and Lola are very close and get on wonderfully as well. I have a friend that had 2 males and after working out their positions in the pack they had a very healthy respect for each other. I have heard that 2 entire (not neutered) males may be an issue in that they will fight.
03-31-2014 04:43 PM
border57 I have had four dogs in the house recently, one male GSD , a female Yellow Lab, a very old female Border Collie, and an older Chow/collie? mix female. The Chow mix came from the pound at 4 or 5 years old and hated the BC on sight. I foolishly thought they would improve over time, though: It didn't happen. They never got along and I hate to say it, but I was glad when the Chow cross died five years later and gave my old BC the last ten months of her life without the other around. The Yellow Lab came in as a puppy when the Chow mix had been here a few months. Zero problems at any time with the Lab. They were all fixed dogs.

My takeaway from that is, two adult females may not get along if one comes in as an adult, but if one comes in as a puppy it will probably work.

In the past when I had a male BC with GSD male, they were fine together. Best pairings have seemed to be male and females for me. Right now the older male GSD is 9 and the Yellow Lab is 8 1/2, and they have been great friends. Other GSD male with BC female pairings have also been great friends.

The new GSD puppy that came into the household 6 weeks ago will most likely get a little sister in the next year because the other two will be gone in five years and I like to keep multiple dogs around for company (me and for them, too).

Very sorry that you lost your yearling. It's heartbreaking to hear about. Hope the ones you have and are getting will be with you for a long, long time.
03-31-2014 04:26 PM
GSDluver4lyfe I have one intact male, my GSD and am getting another male. I don't forsee any problems because my current dog just doesn't care about anything other than having the most fun ever. He is somewhat "rude" though when interacting with other dogs and sometimes causes other dogs to react with agression. Most of the time he accepts the "correction" and moves on. He only reacts back if the dog doesn't accept his acknowledgment. They will always be with me or seperated when alone, just incase (and it would be the same case if it were male/female).
03-29-2014 10:15 PM
Rangers_mom Right now I have 2 male dogs ( a GSD and an Aussie) and i have not had any problems.

I had the Aussie (Buzz) first and before I got the GSD (Ranger) I used to foster dogs. I found that while there were never any problems with Buzz and any of the fosters he did seem to like so e fosters more than others. To my surprise it had nothing to do with sex. There were females that he really liked and females that he seemed to be afraid of or just generally dislike. Likewise with the males. I really think it depends on personality. Buzz is very good at getting along with any dog we bring into the house but he definitely seems to like some more than others. I wish it were as easy as saying male dogs get along with females but in my experience that is not the best way to predict.
03-29-2014 09:55 PM
Tide vom Nobles I say get whatever sex of dog you want. I have a female GSD that has been under a roof with two females and they never once get into a "bitch" fight. She now lives with her liter mate who is a female and our male GSD who we got last and have had no issues. I honestly think it depends on your dog.
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