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03-05-2014 05:00 PM
Dogtracks
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Originally Posted by middleofnowhere View Post
Leash walking without a choke or pinch collar --

1. carry treats (and use them to distract your dog)
2. stop rewarding the pulling - to do this you stop moving forward. You just stop. Dog pulls. Forward motion ends.
You can call him to you and reward him with a treat as well as moving forward once he gets back to you.

Avoid dogs behind fences while you are walking and work under threshold - as he gets over this behavior the threshold gets smaller.

It takes time.
Thank you everyone! The treats, the ceasing of forward movement and distraction all seem sound. That the general consensus that I get from all I've read and heard.

It's near to impossible to avoid dogs behind fences. Almost every last house in my neighborhood has a dog behind a fence. He only goes for the big ones or very aggressive ones. Others he ignores.

I am only hesitant about which collar to use. I have had people tell me that harnesses are the worst because it encourages them to pull even more. Then I have heard the opposite. I have heard that prong collars are the best and that they are the worst (especially with a novice). I have heard that I should use the half choke chain and don't use it.

Here is what I'm going to do. I am going to use the techniques. In my thinking it won't matter what type of collar I use if he doesn't pull. I am thinking of staying with the half collar because I feel that it won't slip off when I really need to keep hold of him. The prong collar is another expense and I don't think I would use it past training.

The more I walk him, the better he gets. I still do need to teach him "Heel" though.

Thanks for all the advice. I will also watch the videos.
03-05-2014 08:22 AM
Kayos and Havoc Welcome to you and thanks for rescuing this guy.
03-04-2014 10:29 PM
middleofnowhere Leash walking without a choke or pinch collar --

1. carry treats (and use them to distract your dog)
2. stop rewarding the pulling - to do this you stop moving forward. You just stop. Dog pulls. Forward motion ends.
You can call him to you and reward him with a treat as well as moving forward once he gets back to you.

Avoid dogs behind fences while you are walking and work under threshold - as he gets over this behavior the threshold gets smaller.

It takes time.
03-04-2014 08:46 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by misslesleedavis1 View Post
I am a fan of the prong collar but first make sure you educate yourself on them.
Oh geez a rookie and a prong collar! I'm just gonna say if you can view and understand what this guy is doing use a prong if you can't then don't.


The first video posted by MsMaria should be what you should be doing now in my opinion and if it's not working then you should be trying to understand what "you" are doing wrong.

But maybe it's the clicker don't use one myself and you don't "need to" maybe this is better?


Reaching for a new "tool" to fix your dog is starting down a wrong path! The most important "tool" in getting the dog you want and not the dog you have is "you".


03-04-2014 08:45 PM
Chip18
Quote:
Originally Posted by misslesleedavis1 View Post
I am a fan of the prong collar but first make sure you educate yourself on them.
Oh geez not a rookie and a prong collar! I'm just gonna say if you can view and understand what this guy is doing use a prong if you can't then don't.


The first video posted by MsMaria should be what you should be doing now in my opinion and if it's not working then you should be trying to understand what "you" are doing wrong.

But maybe it's the clicker don't use one myself and you don't "need to" maybe this is better?


Reaching for a new "tool" to fix your dog is starting down a wrong path! The most important "tool" in getting the dog you want and not the dog you have is "you".


03-04-2014 08:25 PM
Deno David T

Your take on the prong collar is as wrong as it can be.

Most of your advice strikes me as odd.
03-04-2014 08:05 PM
Deno First off, thank you guys for taking in Hunter. He sounds like a great dog.

The Prong collar is the best way to train a dog on the lead, bar none.

It's safe, humane and effective. If done right you can have him heeling

off lead anywhere you care to take him in no time.
03-04-2014 06:53 PM
David Taggart Prong collar was designed for correction of already learned commands, it should never be used for training and definitely not for walking.
1. Start a diary on him, otherwise it would be difficult to estimate his progress. Try to be specific in your descriptions - how exactly he walks out of the gate, what sort of postures he aquires when meeting dogs and people, etc.
2. Choke collars make dogs to pull. It works as natural fetters or trammels the dog wants to free himself from, and good only for already trained dogs. The muscles of all mammals work against opposing forces and it doesn't matter what you put on him, he would pull the lead. Get a walking harness first
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to start training. Stop every time he pulls, click with your tongue like to a horse and turn 180 degrees to walk in opposite direction. Train in the areas free of distractions, ask him to follow you by clicking your tongue. Next time he sees a dog - turn away yourself and call him after you. When you look at other dog - you are just giving him a command in a body language that that is the object to investigate, show him your complete disinterest by turning your face away. It is too early to let him close to any dogs before you studied him better.
3. He could be startled by something you'd never expect, panic or get too agitated. Never risk loosing the lead, he is too strong for you. Make a dog kerchief and saturate it with one of essentual oils Aromatherapy for Dogs - The History, Facts & How ToThe Blissful Dog for your walks. Valerian tablets (2-3) are pretty harnless, I'd use it in addition.
Medication and aromatherapy are temperary measures, you have to place a new stereotype into his brain, and only he starts to respond to your voice well you can stop using it. Make sure he is hungry before he walks, feed him tasty treats every time you want his attention on you.
03-04-2014 06:33 PM
Stosh You can look at a lot of free videos and articles on leerburg.com. Beautiful dog- glad you gave him the home he deserves!
03-04-2014 06:17 PM
MatildaTheMalevolent I love TAB289 's dog training videos on youtube. He has some really good tips
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